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Yes, water chestnut. (Last page of aquatic plants) DEC Prohibited and Regulated Invasive Plants

Loss of habitat is a key driver in reduced numbers of species worldwide. A scientific approach would be beneficial however the current admin is definitely not big on science. Refer back to first post in this thread. "Harm" in the Endangered Specie Act now means can't directly hurt the "animal" but perfectly okay to destroy its habitat. There are plenty of trees on private lands that the loggers can go after. The gov't will get pennies on the dollar for these trees, hence just a money grab for some. Anyone who thinks this will make lumber, furniture or toilet paper cheaper is living in "alternate reality." 25% of 16,000 acres is 4,000 acres. The Genny will never recover from the logging that happened along its banks over 150 yrs ago.

That's what it's really all about. Scr*w the environment, make some bucks.

Loggers don't take the diseased or bug-ridden trees. Hardwood forests need to be left alone.

Here's another boner, but closer to home: Logging increase in Finger Lakes National Forest. Between Seneca & Cayuga) Trump order would open New York’s only national forest to increased logging - syracuse.com

The scientific guiding principle to stocking is to balance the Predator-Prey relationship. It has nothing to do with stocking where natural repro happens. Nat repro happens on the SR but the SR is still stocked. DEC also wants to provide opportunity for the stakeholders, both trib & open water. This year (2025) 13,300 Browns were stocked in Irond Creek at 7 places and 141,000 Browns were stocked in the lake off Monroe County at 3 places. The overall goal for the lake is 480,000 Browns. Browns going in the creek are larger than those that go in the lake. ( 9-15" vs 8" respectively.) Hatcheries can produce much more than 480K so it has nothing to do with making up "shortfall." https://dec.ny.gov/things-to-do/freshwater-fishing/stocking/spring-trout-stocking/monroe-county "Wood is good'" Yeah right...until you hit some and knock the heck out of your prop or lower unit!

YAY!

The distraction of old news that'll never fly won't cut it. Good try though.

They would if it really lowered taxes for the people. Read the actual proposal! It extends the tax rate we've been paying and opens up more loopholes for his "buddies." Going to buy a Rolls with your refund? or a couple of fishing lures? or a couple of "barbie dolls" ? (On the black market.) Back to thread topic: I hope everyone has sent an email or 2 to their congressman/woman about USGS.

Zebra Mussels 1st found in Lake Ontario in 1988. By the end of '89 they were found in all the Gr. Lakes. Quagga mussels were identified as a different species in 1991, in Lake Erie.

It's been long known the well fed, well-nourished cold-blooded animals (fish, reptiles) can physically tolerate stress better than the less nourished. I.E. They are more susceptible to thermal shock. The better fed will have more successful reproduction rates. If you look at the 2024 prey fish assessment, you'll see the Alewife" Condition Index was slightly better than the 2023 Index but both were well below the 2021 & 2022 Indexes. The lower food web in Lake Ontario is not what it used to be. The spring weather has been very variable this year. Tribs like the Genny (warmer than the lake) have had 3-4 day periods where they've been "roaring" followed by same periods of only a trickle. We've had some bright/sunny periods followed by miserably cold spells. There's also been some interesting wind shifts from west to east. The wind driven currents in the lake moves areas of warm and cold water around quite a bit, especially in the near shore areas. Although schools of alewives move, they are not known as strong swimmers. They can't outrun the quickly changing water temperatures and can't handle much temperature variation. I.E. Thermal shock will kill them. As to the 70's: Yes, the food web was much better and there were more alewives, but that decade's fall/winter weather was horrible. Hurricane Agnes hit us in '72 and high water wiped out many cottages along the lake. There were heavy duty snowstorms along the southern shore, not in just the snow belts. '70's were known for long cold winters where 70-80% of the lake typically froze over. Also, Ginna & Russel Station were in full operation. However, summers were nice, and alewife reproduction was very good.