FLXTroutman

I will be in it! Except my rig is at south end but that's ok. I may be able to get fireplug to mate , maybe you should just join us ncallahan03 if no one is interested. Hey fireplug, whatcha doing that Sunday? I know I have to work on my house but I should be able to get out since the season is burning up.

I use 30 lb. test on rigger rods and 30 lb 9' leaders for dipsies for fleas, but also I don't think the fish know the difference. Berkley Green or clear and Ande 30 lb pink work equally well. I used to run lighter leaders tying spoons direct no swivel, but your asking for break offs. I think it's all about the action of your attractor and flies and colors and scent. I have a 10 lb ball you may have ( PM me where you live), I run sharks now and fish weights but keep 12 lb Tru Tracs on board for emergencies. A 6 lb ball will give you too much cable swingback fishing below 25 feet I would think. I can accomodate some anglers willing to fish Sunday morning if you are interested. How about it? Also HEY troutman10, fireplug, mongo, LTTRoller, trouriggin9n88 whatcha all doin? How about a last hurrah before the weather changes? call me 394 2028 boat is in Woodville at marina. Let's go I know it's suppose to rain but you can stand under the top!

Holy Perch!! I am gonna start pulling peanuts and dodger. What color dodger? What size? What color peanut? My wife caught a huge Canandaigua perch a couple years ago in her canoe but released it no pic but she first thought it was a bass since it was so big.

I run flasher fly program like you would on Lake O. Spin Drs with Atomik flies, echips with flies or squids on riggers and wire and also 600' copper rig. On recent trip, I stretched spinny to 35' off the shark and that was the the ticket. I usually keep em to 15'-20' off the shark. I troll fast like 2.3-2.8, and you may get rainbow or brown running quicker and higher up in water column. Fish the marks or just above them. Sunny days green and mtn dew, cloudy days white and mtn dew with color matched flies or glow squids. Set up near the White Rock on east side and hunt to Whisky Point on Eastside. Or if the marks are scarce head to west side and up to Bristol harbor Condos. Sometimes you don't have to run too far from south end launch to find fish.

I'm no expert, but in my salad days fishing rivers in the fall off of Lake Superior, you cast out a 3/4 oz KO Wobbler or Lil Cleo, let her sink to the bottom and hope you get bit as you reel it in. More casts less dragging the bottom losing spoons. Perhaps switching out the treble to a single hook would create fewer bottom snags? Another option would be tying floating egg sacs, 3 way rig style with pencil lead in surgical tubing. Pencil lead is thin and won't hang as much. Check out Sandersfishingguides.com for good river reports too.

Lately my efforts have been focused on the south end but in the past usually caught fish from german bros. on westside to the dragon wall on the east side. Sometimes the east side is better, sometimes the middle, and sometimes the west side, from pump house to german bros. Do you have speed and temp? I can get bit on flasher flies most of the time and nary a spoon bite. I am running green on green and white on no-see-um or mtn dew with hammer fly depending on weather conditions. 2.3 to 2.9 at the ball it varies. I normally run the 11' flashers or spinnys on riggers, and 8" echips and spinnys on wire dipsies. Copper down the chute with spinny or echip.

We hit the water around 7:15 am, set up near the white rock, put out the usual suspects but no takers. Headed to the west side, switched up the colors from green to white and mtn dew and picked up two lakers, one eater size and one 5lbs. Cloudy conditions proved white over green in the flasher category, and mtn dew seems to work in either conditions. Rigger fish were at 50' and 72' down.

If you need a recipe here you go: sheet of tin foil, pour on some olive oil, then place fillets on foil, then add whole sliced lemon, sliced onions (red or yellow), sliced tomato, capers, and 4-6 pats of butter, pinch the foil back together and you may double up the foil if you wish and grill about 10 minutes. Voila, tin fish not fishy, very tasty, no mess to clean up either. Basic hobo pack with potatoes and onions and butter could go on first for 20 minutes before your fish. My bro actually cooked broccoli and cauliflower the same way in a hobo pack and added ice cubes to steam, very good but does not take long like potatoes.

Recent GLAngler article on piercing smallies to release looks like a small thin needle to "pop" air bladder, not sure where you would stick it in though. I do agree with the torpedo push straight down with a biggun' since the top water is too warm for that fish you just caught in 46 degree water. Since I fish Canandaigua and more often than not the lakers are the most cooperative quarry and readily bite my presentations they are table fare if you keep them. I personally have found my passengers prefer to keep them unless it's a shaker and they go back. If you want a simple recipe click on the link. http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishin ... php?t=7655

http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/25662.html check out this map it's kind of small but white rock is in south end on east side, it is actually a rock that people paint white every year,l legend has before all the house the Indians used it as anavigational aid since there isn't much for landmarks Hey fireplug you got a better link than this one ??

Do you know where White Rock is? That is where they were yesterday. The fish move around, the hot spot back in August 9 -17, was different than a week ago on Labor Day weekend, my wife and I fished and the fish were gone. The South End is a productive area usually from the drop off, past the White Rock to the first point on the East side (I call it Whiskey Point). Speed and temp at the ball will help as there were some crazy currents whipping through the area. Fish the marks, or just above them like 5-10 feet. I know many people use spoons but I run flashers and flies and squids, work through the puzzle of colors for the day and pay attention to your speed. When we were on them the fish were consistently streaking up to the Shark or running right with it.

My brother in law and his two boys joined me Sunday morning for some trolling action in the south end. We worked the east shore near white rock north and south trolls and stayed on the fish. We were set up by 6:15 or so but the youngsters went to sleep in the cuddy and didn't understand why they had to get up at 5:00 am to go fishing. Well they slept through the best action from 7:00- 8:30 we had a triple and I dropped a big one behind the boat off the wire trying to net the copper rod fish and the rigger hooked fish. I was running two 11" "pizza" flashers off the riggers one with A TOM MIK chicken wing and one with A TOM MIK green hammer fly, and one 8" pizza flasher with green hammer on the wire. The green spin dr on the wire with a green hammer caught fish as well as the mtn dew spin dr with hammer fly on the copper took a couple hits too. All of the rigs took fish but the pizza set ups were hot. We boated 7 fish biggest was 7 1/2 lbs. We dropped 2 wire fish, one was mine and the other was one of the kids, and we dropped two rigger fish all the of the dropped fish were hawgs, very heavy and fighting like crazy for lakers. We had a blast and we were back at the dock by 10:30. Strike zone was 50' and 60' on the riggers and wires were out 210' and 180' on a 3 setting. The best picture was in 145-185 FOW on the east side near the white rock. Only saw a few other boats and they trolled right on by heading north. I told my bro Will, the mantra, "don't leave fish to find fish" since the first half hour was quiet but then we were very busy for 2 hours.

Thank you all so much, yes it does have trailer button so I will try that and check the solenoids and clean the connections and reinstall.

Okay before I ask the marina to look at her , I can't get my trim to go up. I just want to make sure this isn't something simple I am overlooking. The motor is a 260 HP Mercruiser not sure exactly what kind of trim pump it is? It will make noise depressing the switch down, the sound it made when it was on its way down at fully lowered position. However if I depress switch up no sound, no movement. Any suggestions before I have to the pros?

What kind of swivels are you guys going to get? I had a Sampo ball bearing swivel straighten or snap out trying de-flea my wire rod earlier in the season and I was not happy. I have some black heavy duty snap swivels without ball bearings that are great and they are even hard to open up with your thumbnail.

I know a guy who has one of those along with 28 other cars. He is quite a collector. I can't believe there are a couple still a couple around and still in working order. You should see the the weatherstripping around the doors, like 2 layers and a neat little prop under the bumper which engages with a PTO, kind of like a tractor.

Sindale that's funny stuff, no nagging, haha

A couple pics of my new boat. My brother's girlfriend's kid went out for his first time and just like his Mom he wanted to "Knock the fish out" His mom reeling one in. My niece reeling one in... and then the requisite nap after waking up early.

Finally I am getting a chance to write my report from my family vacation week on the lake. We started out Sunday morning slow in the North end, managed a laker on the wire. I talked to Shawn of ReelHookedUp Sunday morning and he let me know where he was fishing and doing extremely well, so we hit his area the rest of the week. We went out each morning and afternoon Monday through Wednesday managing only a couple per morning and afternoon. The renamed "Pizza" flasher with an A-TOM-MIK "chicken wing" fly was the best set up and caught 75 % of the fish. Every time it went down on either the probe rigger with the shark weight or the port rigger with a fish weight it fired. Mom had fun reeling in her first rainbow which was caught in the North end. My brother in law Dale, an engineer with Ford Motor Co. helped me work on some of the wiring on the boat namely the auto bilges and the mercathode. This mercathode terminal was disconnected and we rewired it hooking up the anodes from the outdrive and the positive and negative battery connections. We made this repair Wednesday afternoon. Thursday morning the crew and I headed to our waypoints where the screen was loaded with fish each morning before and with the mercathode wired up we lit them up. We did a double which turned into a triple but we dropped one of them. The copper rig out 300' proved to be too much for my 11 year old niece Emily so Auntie M helped her reel it in. We put 6 fish in the boat and we were back to the dock by 8:00 am for breakfast. Friday August 15, was the same story, same waypoints fish everywhere, and we boated 9 tossed 2 small ones back, and dropped one for 7 fish 5-8lbs. each. To sum up the week, the pizza and chicken wing was hot on the riggers parked at 50' or 60' , so was the copper with a mtn dew spin dr with a green hammer fly, the dalmation spin dr with hammer fly on the wire took a few too. Many thanks to the HookedUp boat Sunday for letting me know where he was fishing, my brother in law Dale for helping me work on the boat and the LOU community for discussing the anode issue somewhere and helping me put more fish in the boat!!

I am no expert but I would think about 22' or so, I was running a 600' copper rig out 300' and picking up fish in the 60' range down the chute

Nice day, it was good to talk to you out there. We were not so lucky this or this afternoon. Managed eater lake trout on the wire.

Hey guys we will be out Sunday too, hoping for some nice weather and good fishing. Dan do you have VHF? Give me shout on ch. 68 in the morning. Also when you are running wire what color are your dipsies?

The south end launch is nice, the lake level is up this year so you shouldn't have any problem. If you are after bows and browns read my posts the last couple weeks, you should be able to glean some info from them. Avoid the extreme south end, too shallow and you might lose gear get out around the White Rock on east side and set up. I like echips on flies and echips on flashers 8" lately but 11" flashers work too, just not yet this year for me. White or green flashers, spin dr's in mtn dew and dalmation. Oh yeah and if you catch one a spoon tell me whatcha get em on cuz I can't get a spoon bit. Do you have down temp and speed? I will be out Saturday afternoon weather permitting and Sunday morning on channnel 68 give me a shout. Good luck!

http://www.trolling.fi/basaari/vksalmon ... gories.asp check this link you can see it has the bend (sort of) unlike the cabelas pics that are quite flat looking that link takes you to the home page here's a pic I downloaded looks like cool flasher small not much drag

Thank you guys this site rules!!!