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Sin, Not sure my boat is a perfect fit for you, but check it out in the classifieds on this site and let me know if there are any questions... Nick

Hey Guys, Looking to upgrade boats, so I'm putting our 20' Trophy W/A (model 2002) with trailer up for sale. Here's a picture of the same model boat I found on google that shows the boat with the full canvas enclosure we have... The boat is in good shape and runs well. Has a lot of good fishing stuff: Two full size fish wells Livewell Hummingbird fishfinder that attaches to handheld GPS and shows GPS on it's screen (handheld GPS and link included) Two Canon digitroll downriggers and two canon manual downriggers 120hp Force Motor... tuned up end of last season and oil changed during winterization Trolling motor bracket installed V-berth sleeps two and has porta potti Dual batteries with battery switch Stereo with CD player VHF Full canvas enclosure with bimini top The aluminum escort trailer is single axle with brakes and is in good condition. The tires were replaced just over a year ago. Everything works well, except the cigarette lighter that I disabled to prevent smoking on board. We are the original owners as it was purchased new in 1996 and was used for only a week or two a year for the first ten years, then used on weekends for the past 3 seasons. The boat is winterized in Poughkeepsie, NY if you'd like to look at it, or I can provide pictures next weekend. We've priced the boat low in hopes of a quick sale... $7,500. If you have any questions or are interested you can contact me at 610-689-4139, through PM, or at [email protected]. Nick

Hey guys, yeah i've fished on the cieras before... someone in my marina actually has one. They're only 24' though, the 246 adds a 1.5' to the back, so there's actually a bit more fishing room on the new ones. Diversion... yeah the one we're looking at now has the 300hp in it. While it would be nice, the trophy we have now only has 120hp on it and can't get on plane with more than 3 people, so I'm used to be underpowered haha The only time it really really sucks is when you get caught in a storm! Nick

Hey Guys... Yeah Rich we got married last October, I figured 6 years we long enough to get to know her haha. I'll be out at Wilson a bit later this year, May 22-30... hopefully with a new boat I've never bought a NEW boat before, so I'm a bit nervous. I'm REALLY hoping it's not like car shopping... we've been going around trying to buy a new car for the MRS. and with the auto market being crap, and the bailouts... you'd think the car dealers would treat you better or at least be honest with you... it took all the control I had last week to not start swinging at a dealer after we drove 1.5 hrs to pick a car up that we worked a deal out with over the phone, only to be told after we sat there for an hour that they "made a mistake" and can't give us the car for that price, but $100 more a month Back to boats... I've seen the Discovery 246 in magazines before and always though, eh it's a cruiser, not enough fishing room, etc etc... but then we saw one at a boat show this past weekend and it's actually really nice. Fishing space is really only enough for 2-4 people, but I'm thinking that is probably all we really need. Hey Rich, you got a kicker with hydraulic tilt and electric start right? Mind me asking how much it was with labor or did you install yourself? Nick

Does anyone have any thoughts on the Bayliner Discovery 246? My wife and I are looking for a new boat. It's just me and her 99% of the time, and we drive up from Philly and sleep on the boat, so it needs to have a bed big enough to lay fully in. We were looking for something with more fishing room than our current 19' trophy, but also with more cabin space. We want to stay under 26' and 8'6" beam so we can trailer occasionally. We really had a hard time finding anything that had fishing space AND living space. It seems to be one or other other. The 246 has the same amount of fishing space as our 19', but a lot more living space. I'm looking at a leftover 2007 for about $40k. So anything in or less than that price range is an option. Don't mind used, as long as 2004 or newer (i'm not a mechanic by any means). Anyone have any thoughts? Nick

Haha first week of october might not work for me Nick

Wow I'm surprised they towed it! How long were you worried that it was stolen I know when I had my car towed up at college, I almost crapped myself thinking it was stolen... but then I saw the handicap sign ... oops. Rod when are we going for some tuna off jersey Nick

Dude, if I wanted to catch brown trout, I'd fish more pro-ams Being serious though, I think there are a lot of us that don't really like targeting "different species". I for one could care less if I ever catch anything other than a king. Don't get me wrong, I'll put a spoon out for steelhead or browns while looking for kings to supplement the action, but I really hate trying for just steelies, or just browns, or just lakers Nick

I think it should be like redfish tournaments... three salmon between 20 - 25 lbs only allowed Otherwise, I'd say three biggest fish if pros/ams are in the same division. If seperate divisions, I'd say biggest 6 for pros biggest 4 for ams. Pros can only keep 6 fish, ams can only keep 4. Live release only. Nick

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you guys, been on business travel. Sounds like those rips on the wires with no one home could have been smaller fish, maybe cohos or steelies. I know when I get into a pocket of steelies or cohos I get a lot of short wire hits. Now the one that bit off your hook... that was probably a big male and he was pissssssed Looking forward to this weekend... really hoping we get some nice weather. I'm really becoming more and more of a fair weather fisherman Nick

When you own the boat you make the rules, I agree with that Sorry if my opinion came as being out of line. We'll all just have to agree to disagree. I changed my original post as it was a bit harsh. Nick

I need a bigger boat... end report. Seriously though. The water this weekend was just too rough for my 19' trophy. We toughed it out friday from 6:30pm to 8:30pm. We managed a nice 24lb king. Came on the 65' rigger on a glow perch stinger. First fish on the spoon and the thing came in bent in half... I quickly remembered why I hate stinger spoons. NKs can catch 50kings and be fine, but not stingers. Saturday we got out and it just was NOT pleasant out there. Only fish an hour and went 1 for 2 with a shaker. Sunday same story, fished for an hour and managed a nice domestic bow, 10lb 2oz. 15th place on the LOC and dropping like a rock! The bow came 120fow dipsey out 330' #2 setting with a green protroll pickled sunshine strong fly. If you guys aren't using strong flies... try one. They've been kinda my secret weapon for the past few years, they're smaller and have their days for sure! PROOF Nick[/img]

Stix, Good to see some reports from you! We tried for some browns briefly this weekend without much luck.. I'm just not cut out for brown fishing. Steelies we've gotten pretty good at... with the lack of kings around Sodus, we may start to target some big ol steelies. My 10lb 2oz won't last long on the board and I have to make up for the 20lb steelie I caught two days after the end of the fall derby two years ago! Nick

Sorry Chin didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, just my opinion. Taxes would have to be split evenly as well. When you take people out normally, do you charge them for tackle and boat usage? If not, why would it be any different because they caught a big fish and won some money? To each their own, and if I ever have the priveldge to fish on your boat I would surely follow your rules if that was what you told me, but I just don't see things the same way. If I start charging my good friends who I have the priveledge to fish with because they were lucky enough to catch a big fish. then I might as well sign up for my captain's license and become a charter. Again this is all just my personal opinion and everyone is entitled to do what they want on their own boat. Nick

Geez who the heck checks that little corner of the forum Link for everyone: http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishin ... php?t=7108 Nick

It's funny to hear how everyone treats things different... make sure you work it out before fishing together no matter what! On my boat... anyone can grab the rod, reel down to the fish, but then they need to hand it off to whoever's turn it is. Then that person has to fight the fish to the very end, no hand offs. Any winnings get split by all of those on the boat EQUALLY. I don't agree with the boat getting a share part... . The way I figure it, most people I fish with have their own boat. We could have just as likely been fishing with their boat that weekend... they have slip, fuel, and tackle costs just like I do. If they don't have a boat, well the story still sticks. I'm just giving you guys a hard time, but seriously... don't take away from the experience... decide before hand to split everything equally and it will make the prize that more gratifying for everyone! Fuel, tackle, dockage, those are all costs most of us sign up for at the beginning of the year. Now charters, I can understand if they do things differently, they're a business after all. But when Recs start taking shares for their boats... I just feel like it takes a piece of fun out of it. Nick

Ok guys, let's have your best guesses! I'm saying 36.5 lbs! Nick

So what makes the fat ones with the pink stripe so different than the "normal" steelhead? They seem to cycle out of Sodus and only really show up around September, whereas the "normal" steelies are around all year. Come september though, the domestics tend to mix in with the cohos a lot. I'm guessing they must be a strain different than the skamania or normal steelies..... Nick

Dude, you need to buy her something shiny and expensive. :!: My fiance is supportive of this crazy hobby, but I think even she would leave me if I planned for 6 tournaments next year Nick

You might want to look into some of the NY reservoirs or places in the adirondacks... fair haven is nice, but it's not exactly going to be "alone in the woods". Some of the reservoirs and lakes in the adirondacks you may never see another human being your entire trip... if that's what you're looking for Nick

If you don't get up here much, spend the extra money on the wire... it's not too much. Last thing you want to do is clean fleas for your 6 days or wish you had bought the wire, etc. With the amount you'll spend on gas, boat, time, etc the $60 for wire will be insignificant. Don't bother with the copper. It's not any fun to reel in and unless you have a planer board it will get in the way. Besides, just ask fishtails... he'll tell you... copper doesn't catch fish Oh and make sure you buy a lot of green flies, lures and flashers. People who catch fish on red and blue just don't own enough green hehe. What port are you going out of, people may have more particular info for you based on that. Nick

Pierless, A bunch of us are usually on ch9 as well. I won't be up this weekend, but should be up most weekends the rest of the year. We find by teaming up (one person goes deep, the other shallow) we tend to find and catch more fish and help eachother out! Nick

I called Rod today and he said he blew something out of his ass end on the way home today... but I think it was a bearing not a plug :shock: Nick

Congrats Mark! Nick

First let me say, it was an honor and privilege to fish with Rod, Ray and Mitch (our observer for the two days) aboard LUCKY ENUFF. I got out of work late Thursday and drove up to the lake. The fiance and I got there around 1am only to find that the electric on the docks wasn't working and it was 80 degrees and muggy still. Tried to get a few hours of sleep, but it was just too hot... finally went to the car turned on the AC and fell asleep in the front seat. Not a great start to the weekend! Friday morning it was just Rod and I for the big fish pre fish tournament. We got a bit of a late start due to some trouble getting one of the engines started. Two weeks previous out of Sodus I had been having luck in that 200-300 foot range and that was pretty much where we stayed most of the weekend... from straight out to 6 miles west. We had a good day going 8 for 8. We had a 20lb king, 15lb king, couple of 8-10lb kings and an 11lb brown in the box early and were looking for another 20lb king to put us in contention for the heaviest 3 fish tournament. We managed two more 13-15lb kings that we threw back thinking we really needed that 20lb fish.... it never came and we ended up weighing in the 20lb, 15lb and 10lb king for a total of 76 points. We finished 11th ... out of 10th by half a pound. Had we kept one of those 15lb fish we would have finished at least a few spots higher... live and learn Amateur results: Pro results: Saturday was the start of the pro-am and we felt ready. Friday we had found a few nice lure selections that worked well for us and areas of water that looked decent that we hoped would hold out another day... they did. We started in shallow and couldn't get anything to go, but neither Rod nor myself had been able to get those shallow fish to go in the past weeks on our boats, so we didn't waste much time in turning the boat north. At 7:20 our first fish took a rip on a dipsey. At 7:25 our second fish started taking out the copper line. At 7:35 our third fish popped a rigger. Nice triple! One fish was too small and we got to throw it back, the next was a real nice 21lb king and the third was a king about 10lbs. We were psyched! Then came the lull. Our first fish came 1hr 20mins after we started fishing... it would take another 1hr 20mins almost EXACTLY to get our next fish... which was another 15lb king. 3 in the box... good start. Again a lull and almost EXACTLY 1hr and 20 mins later the dipsey starts screaming, then the copper and THEN THE RIGGER... TRIPLE! :shock: We get all three fish in, one about 10 lbs, one about 15 and unfortunately the 22" steelie on the copper stayed on as I pulled it in.... shame to kill such a small steelie, but rules are rules. So a little after 11am and we were headed back to port with a full box. We had heard reports that other boats had limited, so we were psyched yet nervous that we weren't the only boat with a lot of fish. We got to port a bit after 11:30 to find out we were the first boat in. Now if that doesn't make you smile, nothing will! It was an awesome feeling. We also had the big salmon at the time... although it wouldn't hold I think it was almost an hour before the next boats came in, I believe they had a long run from oswego/mexico and had fished browns. I think we ended up being the only team to limit fishing for kings and not browns.... which to me meant a lot! It was a lot of fun to sit there and watch the other boats come in and weigh in, but man was it nerve racking just waiting for a boat with a heavier cooler. But come 2pm, only two other AMs and a couple of pros had weighed in, mostly all browns... what the heck is going on? Well, I guess a lot of people really struggled on the first day, there were very few kings. We ended the day in 1st place with a score of 126.72 and a 25 point lead over the second place team. We were in good shape! Sunday.... yikes. We struggled... plain and simple. We only had one good rip the entire day and we lost it. The rest of the day we struggled with the dinks. We managed a 4lb steelie and two 3lb kings and a bunch that we threw back... oh and did I mention how much the weather sucked!!! I've never seen it rain that long for that hard ever! So at 1:30 we decided to head back to port and give ourselves enough time to get into the pier heads by 2pm. We were only about 6 miles out, so shouldn't be a problem. Well about 2 miles from the lighthouse up on plane in the mix of the group of boats running in we here BAM! and the boat slows down and makes a sound like the engine is being revved way up! We blew an outdrive Now at 8mph we have to go 2 miles in about 15 mins. You do the math :shock: Rod continues driving and the rest of us go down in the cuddy to the front of the boat.... 10 mins left 1.25 miles to go, 5 mins left 1/2 a mile to go and we can see the pier heads.... 2 mins left... we're not going to make it! #*@#!!!!!! 1 minute left on our observer's cell phone we're 500 yards from the lighthouse.... with no more than 10 seconds left we curl around the pier head and into the chute. We look at the judge on the pier fearing his clock might not read the same... he taps his watch ..... and then gives the thumbs up... we erupt in cheers!!!! At that point, I don't know if we cared what happened the rest of the day, that victory was probably one of the most memorable I'll ever have! We managed to limp the boat painfully into the abandoned docks at carey's cove and carry the cooler over to the weigh in. Rod was much more optimistic than me... I was really thinking that our 10lbs of 3 fish just weren't going to be enough to stay in the top 10. Luckily, a lot of other people struggled too. Screamer had went for kings today and only managed one... a real nice one at 25lbs, but it wasn't enough. The team the day before us with their limit of browns went for browns again and again had their limit and managed to top us. If we could have gotten just one large king or two more kings ... we could have won it all! But hey... we were all unbelievably happy at the 2nd place finish and at my home port none the less!!! Bragging rights for sure back at the marina! There was one last surprise in the works for the evening.... it was time for the East Cup announcement and they announced that there was a tie for 3rd place. Turns out with Rod's finish in Oswego and our excellent finish in Sodus... we caught up to Screamer and managed to tie for third place... SWEET!!!! Just having your name in the same sentence as ATOMIK Screamer you know you should be proud. Way to go guys! Well that's where the fun stopped. We then had to get Rod's boat out of the water so he could have it checked out. We didn't head home until about 8pm and didn't get in the door until about 2am. Tired as all heck today at work, but one thing is for sure... I haven't stopped smiling all day. Nick Slideshow of all my pics from the weekend can be seen at: http://s110.photobucket.com/albums/n105 ... 26db68.pbw