TROUTMAN 87

PAP I have four older Proos riggers that won't handle the heavy weights,so use 10 pound torpedoes off my two side riggers and 10 pound balls off my back two. I hardly fish more than 100 feet down here on Seneca and Cayuga. The 10 pound torps run very well. Plus I fish slow for lakers with them. Sometimes I use 8 pound balls off my back riggers and run them shallow. I have never heard much about the pancakes. But the way they are shaped,you would think they would cut the water good and run without much blowback. You are probably going have to do some more expermenting with different weights. Good luck. Troutman 87

PAP I don't run either of these weights myself,I just make them. Everyone that I have sold torpedoes to really likes them. And I have sold a lot of them. I believe the way the torpedoes are shaped it would seem less blowback than the fish. My 14 pound fish weights have a straight tail and putting a bend in them might be tough as they are kinda thick. The 10 pound fish I make can be bent easily. Also I don't think that you could bend the fin on my torpedoes. Hope this helps. Troutman 87

DICK Yes I do. 16,20, 24,28 ,32, 36 and 40 ounces. They are .05 cents per ounce. The 36 and 40's are finned. Right now I have quite a few of all sizes. Thanks for asking. Troutman 87

PD Please send a check to me. Harvey O'Harra,301 Perry St., Watkins Glen,NY 14891. I will send them to you as soon as your payment arrives. Thanks very much! Troutman 87

I got my 16 pound torpedo weight mold done and starting making them. They look just like my 12 pounders only a little "fatter". $40.00 plus shipping. I can ship one or two for $14.00,three for $17.00. For more info call me- 607 535 2390. Thanks for looking Troutman 87

I do very well on land locks and browns here on Seneca with the perch x rap #8. Also do good on lakers with perch pattern spoons Troutman 87

Believe it or not,I use weed wacker string.Your releases slide down easily and it will not break.

Looking for a bracket for a 9.9.

This Sunday at the FLTA Show I have two tables across from the food concession. 75 downrigger weights from 5 pounds to 15 pounds-round balls,fish shaped and torpedos. Over 200 trolling sinkers-12 oz.to 40 oz. 70 flutter spoons-Pine Valley(some new), Miller,Clark,Kausch, O&M, Vine Valley,etc. New Alpena Diamonds and Locos. A nearly new Cannon Easy-Troll downrigger. Tackle boxes and a Willie box. 30 dodgers different sizes and colors. Bass jigs,colored and plain. Few stickbaits. Flatfish and Twin Minnows. Mitchell 300 deep spools. Several Woolrich chamois shirts size large. Woolrich wool hunting pants 40 waist. Turkey calls. Docking lines. Anchors with chains. A pair of 24 inch sea bags-new. Gun scopes.Several knives. Some odds and ends. Free stuff-old rods,pair of side planers and a box of misc. spoons. Try to make it to the show.Thanks for looking. Troutman 87 PS- The food is great!

Cliff doesn't have a website. He sets up at the tackle shows more as a hobby.He also makes great rods especially long heavy trolling rods. He will have about 300 Suttons at the FLTA show in Watkins Glen next Sunday. Troutman 87

Yes that is him and he will be at the Watkins FLTA show. Troutman 87

WE have a guy that comes to our FLTA Outdoor show that replates Suttons and I think they are as good as new at half the price. New hooks and split rings. He has about 200 to choose from. Troutman 87

I have both 12 and 1/2 pound torpedoes and round balls. The pics of the torps are in the classified under "16 pound torpedo weight coming soon". The round balls have a short fin with a loop for a release. The price of the 12 1/2's are $30.00 each plus shipping. I can put up to 3 in an USPS flat rate box for $14.00. I will have them at the FLTA show in Watkins Glen. Troutman 87

PAP Call me 607 535 2390 Troutman 87

MIKE M I am in the process of getting a 16 pound torpedo weight mold made. It will be just like my 12 and a half (it is in the classified page 4 or 5). It is going to be about half the price of the torps that are out there now. I'll post when I get some done. Regards Troutman 87

There is a pair on e bay-item # 121062935304 Troutman 87

I live close to the peir in Watkins Glen and go over there almost every day. They are catching a few perch and bluegills,mostly small. Once in a while some crappies. I have not seen a trout of any kind or a landlock salmon caught off the peir in the last 3-4 months. There is not even anyone fishing for them. I don't know where the DEC gets their reports, but somebody is giving out wrong info. about the peir. I know the boaters are doing very well. Especially brown and landlocks. Troutman 87

CAPTAIN VINCE I will take the Proos parts for the $35.00.I imagine that you want me to pay the shipping. The parts should fit in an USPS large flat rate box for $16.00. Whatever the total is let me know and an address to send payment. Do you prefer a money order or is my personal check ok? I will send payment as soon as I hear from you. Thanks-Regards Troutman 87