Guides On the Finger Lakes need a Coast Guard Lic all ready, so we also need the TWIC card. And we also need a NYS Guides Lic, and a Public Vessel Operators Permit. Which includes giving money to NYS Office of parks, and putting a big black PV sticker on your boat for the Park police. The last two items NYS Guide Lic and PV, I dont think are even needed by Captains on Ontario? What is the deal with that? I didn't even know about the PV permit untill I got blew in by some one this winter. I have all off the above, but it seams like over kill. Sean