Sk8man

If the wind doesn't let up probably January 2018 Seriously we need some still nights with this cold to start things up. On the good side the wind with ths current cold snap should mix the water so that itwill be more uniformly cold.snd hopefully freeze up better.

In and around points, bays, and stream mouths in less than 50 ft of water with sticks or small to medium spoons trolled way behind the boat and/or on planer boards

We enjoyed chatting with you and spending time with us this afternoon at Field and Stream Tim. It was really nice "eyeballing" firsthand the prizes for the tournaments and it is really very high quality merchandise and a lot of it to be won and distributed. Looks like a very well organized operation and we can't wait for some ice at this point.... Hope to see you again....out on the ice Les

or was it "6 horse long shaft"?

And Bob also truly believes that every fish symbol that appears on the screen is a real trophy fish so there may be psychological benefits as well

Eastern Banded Killifish There is also a western version of it(thought to have been originally introduced from someones aquarium) .

I think the bottom line to your question is:for the best taste use the silver salmon that aren't spawners (out in the lake) and fillet them without using the areas of the back and belly of the fish or the skin and grey area of the lateral line where the potential contaminants collect. Use a good brine on the portions used. As Gator mentioned anything eaten or drunk in excess is not great for your health, but if prepared and smoked properly non spawning smoked salmon can be "addictive" regardless of where it comes from I've never had the jerky so have to pass on responding to that one...

Fishnet - The best solution would be to order some 40 ounce weights from Harvey Oharra (Troutman87) here on LOU. They work great and his prices are the best around.

Thanks for the update Jason. Sure sounds very encouraging. One of the things I would suggest is to NOT rely ONLY mainly on Facebook for disseminating info and updates but to develop a good interactive web site for the derby. Many of the fishermen I know that take part in the derby strongly dislike all the social media crap which I know is very popular especially among younger folks, but having a strong base website is more functional from the standpoint of appealing to a wider range of people who do not wish to establish a Facebook account or interact in any way with it. If it could be a secure site allowing registration and credit card interaction I think it could significantly expand the entrant base.

I think you may have misinterpreted the comment about the bottle float. The 3 lb weight goes at the bottom of your main and rig lines line with your individual (max of five) leaders and lures at intervals above it from bead chains swivels or barrel swivels and the bottle float (or "jug") at the very top of the main line so that it suspends the entire rig from the surface as it is trolled through the water with these lures running at set intervals on the "rig line" attached to the main line (usually SS wire or braid)

Good to see this thread resurrected. These days many folks are preoccupied with king fishing on Lake O and filling their boats with the latest and greatest elcetronics and that is a fun part of fishing for sure but Seth Green (or "thermocline" or "rig" fishing) on the Finger Lakes can be a blast too. Yes, it sounds complicated and a lot of work to folks not familiar with it and yes it is "old school" but it can also be VERY productive even in the absence of the latest greatest technology. I recall another previous thread where a lot of the things involved were detailed as well but Second Chance 22 (above) detailed the "basics" very well. For those folks unfamiliar with this trolling method I would suggest going out with someone who has been doing it for a while to get a real feel for it before discounting it as too complicated or too much work. Interestingly, each fisherman doing it has their own "twist" to it and even very experienced folks can benefit from seeing it done on the water. There is nothing like having a couple of big rainbows or Landlocks on one rig at the same time trying to go in different directions and then hand lining them to the boat with your heart in your mouth and adrenalin flowing.....kinda like holding a full draw on a recurve bow on a deer and trying to stop the shaking

Of the two items (camera vs. flasher) the flasher is more essential for overall use. Most of the time the water is very clear during the ice fishing season and muchof it is done in shallow water. Thus a lot can be learned by jigging and actually looking down the hole to observe the fish behavior. What you learn from this can be invaluable especially in terms of translating it to flasher or combo unit use. After awhile the flasher can become your "eyes" and you learn to tell pretty much what is going on down there by what is happening on the flasher (e.g. movement toward or away from your jig, movement of the fish while looking at the jig or bait, the specific movement ( e.g. spinning or lack of it) of the jig itself, anticipation of a strike etc.) and the spatial relationship of the fish to your jig or bait.I'm not saying that a camera isn't a valuable tool but I believe a flasher with a zoom or combo unit in experienced hands is a more overall useful item especially for multi-species use.

Mike - Before you get too heavily into buying equipment it would be a good idea to go with someone experienced in ice fishing to fully check it out and this is for a number of reasons aside from just money expenditure. Ice fishing isn't for everyone, and not knowing what you are doing out there can lead to disaster; especially early and late in the season when the ice condition is "questionable". Hopefully, there will be some good ice this year but wandering around out there without having experience and familiarity isn't a great idea even experienced folks can get into trouble when chances are taken. I'd be willing to show you the "ins and outs" of it if and when Honeoye freezes up (it is usually one of the first lakes around here to do so). It is a lot easier to understand this stuff when seeing it in person and learning by observation rather than trying ot figure it out on your own.....and a lot safer.

Good suggestiuons above but if you do decide to go with just a flasher make sure it has a ZOOM function

Great info and certainly more detailed than I had seen previously. Thanks. Very interesting about the turkeys too....