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Welcome to LOu. I hope you get lucky with your finding a new boat and with the fishing this season. It sure sounds as though you got your moneys worth out of the old boat though
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Jack, Don't be afraid of cranking the motor/speed up a notch or two even with the Sutton's. This time of year it seems most productive for me at least to troll things near the bottom and up at the top rather than concentrating on the suspended stuff. All of us are guilty sometimes of thinking every fish marked is a trout too Many times bass and other species of fish suspend and are not interested in our lures regardless of presentation. Usually if you can find pods of bait someplace that will pay off with fish if you are persistent.
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Meat rigs/cutbait:What's your take? (Discussion)
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Thanks Kev. I sure remember Spence.....incredible fisherman here on Seneca and in Alaska. The great thing about the way this thread turned out is that so many great knowledgeable people contributed to it with "specifics" and solid questions. It is a learning experience for everyone and a "win win": for all and especially to newcomers to the site or to fishing. Thanks to all who contributed. Les -
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One of the best investments I've ever made was in having a dodger made for the bow of my previous 13 ft. Whaler. It kept the huge Lake O waves totally out of my boat even in rough conditions that I couldn't have gone out in otherwise. It could be flipped up or down depending on conditions and my kids used to play with army men and read etc in it while fishing with me. Here is an old pic of it from the 80's with my son and his campground friend. The canvas was done by John Mann in 1979 and I still had it 22 years later when I sold the boat. Might be something to consider adding to yours as well to keep you dry from waves and possibly break up the wind and push it up over the cabin area....just a thought P.S. I even had one made for my current boat
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Good luck with it John....you'll be even more "dangerous" during the Derby now.... Les
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You should be OK with it as Iceman mentioned. It is seldom a good idea to locate any transducer neat your kicker because of the potential for prop turbulance.
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Ed- yes Fred Flintstone and I went to school together (rode our dinosaurs)
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Sean's comments are "priceless" and there is no substitute for direct "hands on" experience (in other facets of life as well as fishing). I sure wasn't meaning to suggest that books and videos etc. are "replacements" or even close to being as important as actual experience.....just additional ways to achieve some understanding some of the aspects of this specific fishery for those folks new to it or that don't live around here. Bob - I knew it was your copy because it had all the question marks in pen after every "big word" P.S. Finger Lakes veterans Sean and Ray have given some important kernals of wisdom here which you probably won't find in any video orbook Thanks guys.
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RE: the Penn 309 -You can take some pliers or even a screw driver and carefully wedge open the level wind line guide on the Penn 309 to accomodate the swivel. I've done it for years and even took the thing out on some of mine that I use with wire for Seth Greens so the bead chains come through without problem.
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I've had a few inquiries (especially from new people) about what information might be available specifically regarding fishing in the Finger Lakes - especially for trout. In this day of You tube videos and various "how to" Web based sources a couple of older but important books have received little attention of late but for the person just starting out trout fishing in the Fingers they are very important in developing a basic understanding of some of the "mainstay" fishing techniques that have spawned the more recent equipment and tactics being used in this specific fishery. One of the books was considered my "fishing bible" in earlier years and I probably learned as much from it as any book I've ever encountered and much of it (techniques) is still relevant despite being published in 1962. The other edited book is a compilation of articles by other authors having specific knowledge of individual lakes written by my close friend and fishing buddy (now departed) talented outdoor writer C. Scott Sampson. Some other Finger Lakes fishermen may know of other useful resources for this particular fishery and if so hopefully will include them in this posting so it can serve as a resource for new folks trying to get a handle on things. Although many of the more recent developments (e.g. techniques and equipment) are covered on LOU in other places reading these books before hand can give someone a real jump on understanding the "in's and out's" that lead to their development. Here are the books: Fishing For New York State's Fabulous Finger Lakes Trout by Earl Holdren (and exquisite FL fisherman by the way) Outdoor Sports publishing (1962) - I'm pretty sure it is out of print but libraries may have it or possibly on inter-library loan. Good Fishing in the Finger Lakes Region and Western New York by C Scott Sampson (Editor) (2003) Sanders Fishing Guides Incorporated
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I was told by Tuna Tom that braid will slip on the spool and that mono should be underneath the wire because of the pressure of the wire on the spool when it winds tight on it after some use. I had some major kings hit last season on my wire and it sure didn't mess anything up...with 1000ft of wire I never had ti come close to the mono backing.
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What you may want to do first is do a search right here on LOU of previous posts for all the information that has already been provided on the subject (there is a lot that you can choose your selections from). Pretty much all of what you are asking is already there.
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I'd put about 75-100ft of mono (30 or 40 lb) under the wire as backing to protect the spool and assist with even distribution of the wire on it (so that it "nests" properly.
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Nice report Nick and I'm really glad the motor renovation thing turned out so well. It has to be great getting out there after that long winter and being out of action. Best of luck this season but I'll leave it short of saying it at derby time after last year's result Hopefully this year I'll be luckier with my motor (after both tuned up ) Les
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"I'm only a novice" (Frogger) :smile: I guess we'd have to say one of the best "novices" at the north end of Seneca then... I think somebody told me once that you were out there while still in diapers.....it could have been your brother
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running both main motor and kicker off of one battery
Sk8man replied to youngknight's topic in This Old Boat
I've run my 9.9 from same start up battery as my 135 outboard and did so on my previous boat with same kicker.I run only my downriggers and electric trolling motor from the second deep cycle battery. By the way I was told some time ago by a marine mechanic that the alternator on the kicker won't do any serious charging while trolling slow....it has to be running at a good clip to start charging the battery significantly. I have an older 2 stroke 9.9 so the newer 4 stroke ones may be different. -
Cod Fishing Tips and Knot help - Tie a snelled hook to a leader
Sk8man replied to carpedium's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Excellent tip from Thun....many "newbies" never think about the importance of staying with the bottom as much as possible at all times when fishing for these bottom dwellers. -
Cod Fishing Tips and Knot help - Tie a snelled hook to a leader
Sk8man replied to carpedium's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Instead of the way this one s set up I've always had good luck tying in three-way swivels at the two points where your knots are on the main "rig" line (1) and use standard "clinch" knots for them. I only use singles instead of doubles on the hooks so I don't get into (2) -
It does seem to be a "personal preference" issue and I'm sure many of the hardcore sport fishermen and especially the charter guys have their favorite setups and there is no one correct answer that meets the requirements of every situation. I do a lot of different types of fishing on different bodies of water (e.g. Finger Lakes and lake Ontario) so my various setups reflect this fact. For lakers and salmon (the two species probably most likely to hit meat rigs) an 11 inch flasher seems to work best with the leader anywhere from 24 inches to 36 inches for lakers and 32 to 60 inches for salmon. On the Finger Lakes I primarily use the 8 inch flashers but also frequently use cowbells to pull meat rigs (as well as peanuts or Spin-n -Glows with the leaders at 18-32 inches for each option. Much of the reason for the shorter leader is because of fishing very close to bottom for lakers and big browns in shallower and to avoid "hang-ups"
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I'm assuming it would mean selecting something like "wanted" or "for sale" that goes before the actual topic (e.g. Daiwa downrigger rods).







