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Capt Vince Pierleoni

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  1. Lets all get together and move Lake Ontario. What a fiasco our state government is.
  2. Great post. If we sleep on any of this we are going to pay the consequences. I know far too many people that fail to vote saying that it's hopeless in NY.
  3. Merry Christmas Hank! Merry Christmas to all!
  4. Brian I feel strongly there will be a giant hatch from last Summers YOY. Now whether surveys find them thats another story. Just like the naturalized King and Coho Salmon, one of the greatest success stories in freshwater fishing history, they are continually adapting. It's crazy how many Alewives have been shallow in bays even with the onset of very cold water and even icing. Years ago we were told by managers that anything colder than 39 degrees was lethal to Pacific Salmon, yet the naturalized fishery in Georgian bay gives up Kings through the ice and they catch them in open water in March there. The biggest concern I have is the micro managing we are seeing these days. I've seen brutal winters on Lake O before, and certainly have seen Spring Salmon decades ago that looked like they had a rough winter. It cycles back. We are certainly seeing SOME years with huge natural hatches, so far it's looking like about every 3-5 yrs. Stocking is a tool that can be dialed into areas that do not enjoy natural RETURNS--which is a huge historical aspect to Pacific Salmon planting. Unfortunately the cuts will only hurt the areas that are already suffering from little staging. With the latest round of cuts I have been blasted with calls and texts. Those that know me know that I sit on every board/panel there is. I was against each and every cut, and try as I did, I felt like my position and concerns fell on deaf ears. Sure, SOME years we have a big hatch, contributing lake wide when they are immature. Ultimately returning to their home areas as early as late July, leaving some areas much more devoid of returns. I love Lake O as much as anyone and would never want anything to hurt the fishery. I feel very strongly in this little surface area Great Lake that if surplus Kings occur they quickly get caught by todays intense, intelligent Salmon fishing pressure. The targeting of Pacific Salmon lakewide 7 months of the year on both sides of the pond is a relatively new occurrence. Less than 20 years ago fleets targeted trout more routinely and waited until "Salmon Season" to rig up for them. I do not agree with the "size at age" findings, and no one I know that fishes most days of the season has seen a drastic decline in Salmon size at each age--at least out in the open lake. Any shortage of super-out sized Salmon is not just from a greater density of Salmon in the population, but as was mentioned earlier is part of the species adapting to Lake Ontario. On top of that, the increased angling pressure crops a portion of the population before they reach their ultimate size potential. Only drastically decreased angling effort(what no one wants to see, but what led to the small population of big fish in Michigan that got caught) will make much of a difference in a handful of outsized Salmon being caught. My inquiries with serious anglers on Lake Michigan indicated that yes, there was a nice slug of bigger fish around mostly late Spring, but most angler effort still was directed towards Lake Trout. I don't think most people know how thinned out the Salmon population would have to become, and how much effort would have to decline to produce a group of rare extra large specimens. "The new normal" may not have been sustainable but to try to alter the population enough to create a big enough spike in size would certainly leave alot of anglers with dry coolers. The concept that Lake Ontario Alewives can be permanently driven to extinction is utterly out of line. Any "mistakes" made by implementing a less conservative approach to the Salmon population are 100% reversible. A couple other thoughts with all the stuff I see swirling around. If cormorant control was implemented, and/or stocking practices were used that protected Trout and Salmon from their predation, MANY more Steelhead would be saved than any knee jerk Lake limit that is being slapped on the Lake fishermen. Most avid lake anglers are sad that the proposed limit will actually be more detrimental to that species--doing just the opposite what the proposal hoped to do. That goes for any stocked Salmon and Trout, it makes little sense to just feed the birds after the time and expense of raising them. Lastly, I know we are in the middle of a "study", but its well documented in fishery management that Coho must be stocked as holdover Spring fish . The vast majority of NYs Coho are stocked in the fall and end up eaten by birds, trout, walleye, or caught repeatedly by stream fisherman as tiny minnow sized fish. If all our Coho were Spring stocked it would be an explosive contributor. In closing, it was never my position that we didn't experience a couple of weak year classes of Alewives, only that this has happened several times before in the last 40 yrs since anyone paid attention to it. Sure the total alewife number was reduced but it was just less of an excess. Good things happen to the alewife population when it is controlled, and certainly the fans of Perch and Walleye hatches are rewarded-as alewives are a direct predator of those hatches. The way the Chinook Salmon were distributed across the lake the last couple of Springs/early Summers is also an indicator that ample food was present East to West. If the DECs findings are accurate, 2019 provided a great natural class of Chinook so 2021 should see lots of age 2s sizzling around the lake. Some will mature and the rest will be large adults in 2022. Merry Christmas to everyone.
  5. Brand new never used. Pick up in Newfane/Lockport/Olcott area or buyer pays shipping.
  6. Congrats Dan, well done. I'm curious did you ever find out what made that noise and remedy it?
  7. I don't think you will see it. Lake Trout stocking will be emphasized where they are seeing natural reproduction--even if it is very poor. The Lake Trout restoration effort really has little to do with Sport fishing opportunity, they are said to have "intrinsic value". Brian, don't hold your breath waiting to be asked what you think anytime soon. Truth be told, Lake Trout, Walleye, and Cormorants are the obstacles to stocked Salmonoids making it their first year. Their predation on the stockies is well documented. BTW, the Feds stock the Lake Trout.
  8. You are correct Brian. The funding was in place, the site was available, Lewiston was onboard. It was fought tooth and nail by DEC and here we are with all the eggs in one basket.
  9. https://dnr.wi.gov/news/releases/article/?id=4984 Kudos to the state of Wisconsin for listening to the stakeholders and being concerned with the economic impact of Pacific Salmon.
  10. Sadly we are all encountering more and more of this. What does it bring about? More guys wanting to buy their own land and post it up tight--or leasing it for exclusive rights. These are merely temporary respites as land becomes harder andharder to get on. It leads to yet even more of these violations, and ultimately we get weaker as good sportsmen fall by the wayside. I have a friend who has hunted NY for 40 years. He has pretty much given up Deer hunting in NY because of constant conflicts with disrespectful deer "hunters". He says "Im damn tired of arm wrestling for Deer." Like was said, just like the trib nightmare, violators get a slap on the wrist so the vicious circle continues. I'm so sorry for guys like Rob who put so much into their spots and their seasons to have it ruined by a criminal.
  11. You forgot the part about you driving for 2 days to get to the Whitetail mecca of Kansas--so you could tag out in 10 minutes while walking in for your first sit. Crazy? For sure.
  12. Thank you again. The fact that he is still beaming really puts it all in perspective.
  13. Justin you will probably see us again. Us not coming that way for a few years was more the distance of travel and Mark had some significant health issues due to his condition. Last fall he was finally good to go again. As you saw, EVERYTHING has to be thought out and preplanned--especially on a road trip with a few nites stay. Sleeping accommodations, bathroom access and of course the in and out of the rugged country. We both enjoyed hunting with you and appreciated your efforts. We just hit a merciless hot spell and lots of standing corn. Hope you had a great season with the Tigers and your hunting has been going well. Happy Thanksgiving.
  14. NIB was a Tourney prize. $50. Left hand crank. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
  15. Thanks for the kind words Reel Doc. The best people I have ever met have been anglers and hunters. I originally wrote the above post on Nov 8th, the day Mark took his crossbow deer. Unless someone has seen what he has to go through to spend a day hunting it's hard to truly appreciate how awesome the whole experience was. I can say it's the first time I have sat by anyones side as they have let an arrow or bolt fly. There was some interesting convo that went on. At first I could not see the deer and did not want to blow it peering around his front window. After the Buck got done staring us down, he went back to his fast rut walk--I reminded Mark to aim low and told him I would stop him. As soon as he hit an opening I mouth grunted(Mark said later it sounded like a lost lamb) and he seemed to stare through the back of our heads. Mark let it fly and I could tell by the bucks sprint it was solid. I said excitingly--"you smoked him!" His reply was "really?" I gave him a 1 arm hug and waited a bit before looking for sign. Our host Jon Forder must've jumped out of his tree stand across the road as he was there before I recovered the deer. Very little blood as he caught part of front shoulder but Buck was only about 50 yds from impact location. Ironically Mark followed this up with a rifle buck he took on opening day. He was invited to a special hunt for handicap hunters by a generous owner of a large land tract. I don't know all the names but another fisherman and hunter Richard Brant helped organize the volunteer helpers that sit with each hunter and help them retrieve their game if needed. Mark called me that night and said, "its my first two buck season of my life!" My own gun season hasn't gone so well but needless to say my season is already made. Thanks to all that have helped me with Mark this season and in the past.
  16. Absolutely one of the greatest highlights of my years of deer hunting. Those that know my brother understand that he is limited to hunting from a wheelchair. If it rains or snows he gets a lap full. We are limited to areas we can get a truck or my utv into. I scored last Saturday so Mark and I already had an all day sit planned for today- rut timing and perfect cold snap. 2 days ago we got a text from Jonathan Forder, asking how Marks hunting season was going. When he invited us to spend our day together at one of his spots I jumped at it, as we have been enduring some trespassers ruining hunts lately. It takes alot of prep and work for Mark to hunt, and for todays all dayer he got up at 230am. We sat from before daybreak until 330pm before we saw our first deer. Shortly after this beautiful buck cautiously snuck in, looking very uneasy at one point due to the newly placed blind. Once the bucks thoughts turned to does again he gave Mark a 37 yd shot and he made it count. To be able to be there with him when it all came together is a memory I will never forget! It is one of his best deer of his life, and definitely the best one since he got his wheels. We both feel very grateful and blessed to have friends share their access to get close to these amazing animals. The above post was originally written Nov 8. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
  17. Awesome story Tommy, great work finding the hunter!
  18. World class buck. Congrats! NY is quietly producing studs regularly now. Congrats to all the successful bowhunters on this thread.
  19. I use those for my smokeless charges. When you only have 43 grains you have to be even cooler!
  20. I also modified with a utility knife the height so he can shoot his compound over it. Depending on what you use for a chair/stool you may not need to do this.
  21. Its a valuable tool. With my brother being wheelchair bound this blind has been quite an asset. I would say dont skip staking it down if any wind is present as it catches wind but he has had deer 5 to 7 yds away feeding. We had to laugh as the first deer he took with it using a firearm he shot thru it! The scope peered over the top but not the barrel. Took the deer cleanly as its corrugated board. I saw enough to buy one for myself but have only actually used it once. It must me good as a trespasser walked to within 3 yds of me during late muzz last year before I startled him. "My bad" was the best he could come up with after walking through the middle of the greenfield I was sitting on. I think it is as good as whats in front of it. Corn-great, snow- great, a couple of well placed branches in front of it make a lot of difference. Of course it's only for one side of you so planning for that is the most critical. It's worth the money IMO.
  22. These are all good observations and yes can have an affect in a case by case basis. I agree that the mid 90s was the peak of the mussels influence but for several years now their impact on water color has been drastically mitigated. The high water, lake Erie inflow, and the normal adjustment downward(after the initial explosion) in numbers of nearshore mussels have all had an impact on the return to fertile, colored water to nearshore waters. We routinely see Salmon set up inside on the southshore, and it is more often the norm on the northshore. The color is there and so are the alewives. Your point that catching returning Salmon in shallow water and off piers in clear water is extremely difficult is true. However, when they are imprinted and actually exist to return they sulk to the bottom and move as deep as needed for their needs/security. When this clear water is present the night casters do very well if the fish are there to catch. Also several locations at Canadian ports have had normal staging behavior especially this season making the original posters concerns very valid. The Canadian Salmon are not from the Altmar hatchery, and some of the locations discussed like the Genesee, the Oak, Olcott, and the Niagara(being Lake Erie water) do not suffer from clear water conditions in most cases, especially this late Summer/Fall. The returning numbers just are not very large.
  23. Lucky with all due respect your background does not qualify you to speak as an authority on the current state of the Pacific Salmon fishery. You are doing quite a disservice to anyone that reads your many personal attacks on this board, by not admitting that you are not a Pacific Salmon advocate--certainly not in the open lake. As usual, you have taken liberties as to the information you spew on here--much of it is false. I am going to address your targeted misinformation below in the order you wrote it above. Don't expect lots of back and forth because frankly I think you enjoy it and I'm not playing. 1) I have enjoyed a good relationship with Dave MacNeill through the years, he did a nice job for Sea Grant. I consider Dr. Brian Weidel a friend, and we communicate much more often than you know. He has a set of parameters and guidelines that he must follow to formulate his conclusions. I think we learn a lot from each other and even when we strongly disagree it does not get mean spirited. He can only provide his findings--how it is used is out of his control. My conclusions and my positions are based on observations/interactions with the Lake Ontario Salmon fishery for over 40 years--35 of those years nearly every day for 7 months of the year. 2) I'm sorry but as long as you make personal attacks and biased statements from a keyboard using an alias you have zero credibility with me. As for your accusation that anyone that doesn't hide behind a keyboard alias is "self promoting", that is simply nonsense. I was long established prior to the existence of this board. For me, it's about standing behind what you say and believe. To each his own, and I certainly understand why some have "user names". However it's widely accepted that making personal attacks from a position of anonymity is bush league, and often referred to as a "keyboard warrior". 3) Yes I serve on that Great Lakes fishery commission citizen advisory panel(if you are who I think you are your attendance on the calls has been less than stellar) but also the Niagara county fishery advisory board, and served on every single panel and board that I have been asked to sit on for the last 3 decades. I have also volunteered for every single DEC diet study and clipping study ever conducted for Lake Ontario-- just ask any of the managers. How many have you participated in? How many hours a season do YOU spend on the open lake? 4)Your accusation that I "went to a major outdoor print outlet" to plead my case is yet another falsehood you spew. I was contacted by the editor out of the blue asking my take on the issue. Certainly you aren't suggesting censorship, are you? 5) My "screen shots" have nothing to do with you, and certainly you cannot relate through your own recent experiences so simply MYOB. Your fascination with them is creepy. If you must know, the hour by hour observation of "the screens" is only part of the equation. The actual behavior of the target species, along with stomach content analysis is much more telling. For me, "size at age" is fascinating but I won't get into that as it is WAAY beyond your level of understanding with such little "hands on" experience. 6) I'm not the least bit bored, I find every aspect of the daily challenges worthwhile. As to your theory that anglers are leaving the fishery due to boredom--I can assure you if they felt a decent chance to catch a returning Salmon the piers would be chalk full again. 7) Once again you take the liberty to accuse me of "cherry picking" "graph" shots. Sorry but graphs were pretty much obsolete by 1990. My screen shots are actually quite random. Contrary to what you may believe, I would never want any management decisions that would harm the fishery. I find it sad that the Pacific Salmon isn't recognized more for what it actually is, the savior of the Lake Ontario ecosystem. Until the alewives were somewhat controlled none of the fantastic improvements that we have seen over the years would have taken place. This can quickly reverse, and the health of the alewife population put in danger if they become under predated again--and I have seen this on Lake Ontario more than once. 8)To call my observations "noise" is once again a cowardly cheap shot. I think my observations are certainly valuable, and many of the biologists and managers that you enjoy name dropping have told me so. Don't worry about me and my clients/guests. I have survived the first unnecessary Pacific stocking cut, and surely you aren't suggesting that I misrepresent what I can offer the tourist anglers, are you? We have been fortunate to have some bumper crops of naturally hatched Chinook Salmon that have masked the inequities in the stocking portion of the program. When I sit on the various boards/panels I feel a responsibility to look out for the small boater and the shore anglers--not just big boat anglers. Our area and approx half of the southshore of Lake Ontario has had some issues as the wild component does not contribute and 2 to 3 months of the season the small boat angler and area businesses are drastically impacted--not that you care one iota.
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