Capt Vince Pierleoni

Nice job. Yeah, about the hybreds, I was in Stueben co yesterday and saw a GIANT. Perhaps it was a cross. Predator stuff is all new to me, haven't hunted them yet(blasted a few incidentals) but I am seeing them everywhere. Had a cool last day, got my doe with the T/C, and passed 2 small bucks. Most noteworthy was when I watched a huge dark coyote or coydog slither out of the woods 200yds away. Just when he was coming into range, he blew 2 does out of some pines and they were all off and running. His track was alarmingly big. Everytime I see a woman wearing a real fur coat, I compliment her on it. Good Luck predator hunters!

We will learn alot about the Giants and how they feel about Coughlin(a Waterloo, NY native) who I feel is a great coach. I like a coach to be demonstrative, and care as much as the fans do. Vick is absolutely "GIFTED". Watched him warm up next to Donovan last year at the "old" meadowlands. He has the finest throwing motion I have ever seen. Once he reverted to what I call "chaos football", he was unstoppable. They will win alot of games with him, but they better have a good back-up. Still not sold on him as a person. Notice how he acts when he doesn't know the camera is on him-- totally different from that new carefully crafted persona. He will run upfield along the sideline 80yds if he can, but nearly everytime he gets blasted he gets up campaigning for a flag. Wants it both ways.

I think you are dead on, Gator. Had some clients this past Summer from Germany, who were very gainfully employed in the Nuclear energy industry. They talked candidly about having associates charged with maintaining Wind turbines. They stated that it is simply understood how toxic the metal dust is they create, and anyone working in or around one wears a mega-Hazmat suit. They wondered why in the world any of these would be put in or near our drinking water!!! On the other side of the coin, these World energy experts felt strongly that the fad of Windmills was fading in Europe for numerous reasons, and the future of clean and efficient energy there was Nuclear.

Nice job Pete. I was gonna let this die and the bird fans have their fun(haven't seen a word from Mr Tither since at least August--but as an eagle fan he jumped on this one!) But that was one fine compilation. Just think guys, they COULD play again in the Playoffs!

Should sue to get it ALL out, as the whole thing was a sham based on flawed science to begin with. Do we as a country ever learn? Here we go again with the LIE of wind power being a viable form of alternative energy. The proponents keep promoting the untruths that it will reduce the "carbon footprint". The only "footprint" all these cash grabs will reduce is our "tracks" in the world economy. While we continue to shackle our citizens, companies, and our economy overall, the hungry exploding countries like China and India are "full speed ahead". It is so clear that our current admin is absolutely bent on marginalizing this Country, and minimizing our economic power. The windmill fight is far from over, and the "pushers" have deep pockets.

It will be great to have some of the teams back down west again. Good news! Welcome back Primetime Pete and crew, and any other teams coming back. All I keep thinking of is the saying, "if you build it, they will come". Its all about elevating the sport to the stature it should be at.

They out game-planned them for about 52 minutes. No, out game-planned them the whole game, but only executed 52 minutes. When you play the good teams you better bring it for 60 minutes. The Giants better regroup, because in the NFC only them and the Falcons have a shot at stopping them.

Just devastating. The Eagles play "chaos football". If you give them an inch, they'll gladly take a mile. SO many little things resulted in the latest Giants/Eagles folly. Pete, I remember thinking(about the punter), "this situation is going to raise it's ugly head at the worst possible moment", as he was dropping snaps and shanking punts early in the year in games they won anyway. This being said, should have never came down to a rookie punter. Manningham, having his best game of his career, had that careless fumble. Then the non-coverage of the on-side kick, then the illegal motion penalty which put them out of field goal range on their final offensive drive, and all those broken scrambling plays. Coughlin will have his hands full picking his team back up, after going from potentially being the 2nd seed in the NFC, to now having to fight for a playoff spot. Hopefully they will meet again in the NFC championship game. Awful way to lose a game, but this is why the NFL is so engaging.

Nice fish! Great to see that girth.

Great topic. Sometimes the only thing you can do is leave the area entirely. Sometimes you can pattern them, as to where they are on the feed in relation to the thermocline, and stay away from them depth-wise. This is not always the case, and sometimes you have to move to prevent damaging many. If you do rip a gill or get profuse bleeding from the tongue, take that fish rather than throw it back dead just to kill another bigger fish, it's the right thing to do. The advice given earlier about getting them in quick, and flipping them off without handling them if possible is correct. Guys must be taking better precautions in recent years, as we regularly catch large kings with healed up slightly altered jaws. Even with non "tattle tale" releases like Blacks, a trained eye can read the rods and cables for a "hitchhiker", and release most of them unscathed. Thanks guys for bringing this up.

That great to hear Greg. It will be good to see Team Troubles earlier in the season. Have a great Christmas buddy.

Yeah Pete, Toms a trip. Judging by some of his audio-visual creations as of late, he has many additional talents besides staring at the ceiling at night thinking up hot fly patterns! LOL! I too, always enjoy competing against and swapping stories with Team VQ, always a "factor" in every event. I hope you and your family have a great Christmas. Say hi to your crew for me. See you in Feb at the expo.

Guys are probably taking exception to the comment; "this board has been dead." Actually, I've been surprised at how much activity there has been, with holidays upon us and lots of hunting going on. There is quite alot of Salmon buzz starting, and it will only intensify. The topic you have brought up is one often discussed on this forum, and in person. Even the closest observors of this fishery, and DEC fishery managers can only speculate. So many factors come into play such as, stocking practices, predators present when stocking takes place(although holding pen projects have certainly helped), food present for fingerlings, angling pressure on "skippers"(1st year Salmon), baitfish migrations, baitfish densities(too much bait makes Kings extra hard to "foil"), water clarity, temp inversions, ect,ect,ect. It's a two part equation, will the population be up, and will conditions be favorable so I can realize that upswell. Most of us feel that we may not be totally out of the woods on the older classes, but they should be big again. Everywhere we went around the lake last year the Alewives were ample. In addition, we are currently experiencing an explosion of smelt, they put lots of weight on Kings. As for Kings in the 5-16lb class, there should be a strong representation to tear up your set. Good Luck.

Congrats! Nice deer, velvet or not. Give us the story, was it acting like a buck, or was it driven? Yes, they can do mounts with velvet. Went on an archery Caribou hunt in '98, and all the "cows" have small racks in velvet.

If you see one of the fixtures of Olcott around today, wish Dave Hoffman a happy birthday. He is one of the partners of Double Play II boat, and one of the truly good guys around.

C'mon Tom, you know me too well. You know I won't take the bait. I'm not gonna take part in some WR style trash-talking exchange! All the VQ guys are cool, and one of my favorite competing teams. In fact, it's so formidible that I think you should bring that "crazy b#t&h" boat of yours down with your own squad! You know, that bad-ass Penn Yan with the blue anodized riggers? C'mon, that would give us another team and keep all those brains and talent from being on one vessel! I have nothing but respect for team VQ, but I don't remember getting any help in a Tourny? He sure helped me with the canal and docking in Erie, PA when I brought the Vike home, and I will be forever grateful. Man, this season is gonna be a blast!

Well.....after lots of consideration I think we will fish it. YEAH RIGHT! LOL!!! Wouldn't miss it! Who else is in? Just think, all the subjects (CHINNIES) are out there still putting on the feed bag as the Lake hasn't even cooled down yet.

Nice buck!

Nice pics Tim. How 'bout those Kings we had in late June/early July this past season!!!!???

Slight improvement as of last night, some fish being caught. None of us know how todays rain and big run-off will impact visibility come Monday AM.

Ironically, if we are going to successfully keep "wind"mills out of the Great Lakes, it will be because Sailors and Anglers finally find common ground and band together. We will be looking to you, Ray, to help us recruit some fighters.

A slight timing change can also give those symptoms.

Congrats Bob Walters! Chalk up another world-class fish from the Lake O system.

I received mine. Wow, very well thought out and first-class.

Yikes!!! Can we "fast forward" to May?