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Stoneam2006, nice fisher. I get more pumped seeing a fisher in a set then a nice buck, but thats me.

Geez, dont say snares, youll get everybody worked up again, read earlier in this thread if you care, but we refer to them as cable restaints.

was on Slr last sat of season, waddington area , sucked real bad, only saw a few ducks around , nothing helped us out but a couple of geese my son shot. very few geese to , only saw one big flock over canada late morning. I heard it was slow going on the river weeks prior to , but I couldnt make it up.

Nice job Mr boater, Nice to see him happy. For all the folks that like to do private eye work, Im assuming you were out for the youth weekend. Im going to upstate new york for the opener of ducks for a few days and some walleye on the st lawrence, cast and blast weekends are my favorite. Starting doing my homework on a dog, wish me luck. Pm me if you dont mind , how much was yours?????

Let the fur fly!

Guys, Im really really sorry. Cant believe Im saying this, but I think I was rong, rrrong, wa wa ,wrong? You might as well look. On my last rant , third word from the bottom, I know , I spelled it wrong. Should be accept. Aww shyt.

Yep!

Even trappers have the same right to be on public land. I get to be just as upset about a dog ruining a good trap set legally or cable restraint set legally as the guy who has the dog. Trappers try to be careful of dogs , so why cant dogs be careful of my traps or cable restraint? And just because someone is new on the forum doesnt mean they cant rant on and on about something they dont know about showing no respect, please except our apologies. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Cable restraints are just that, restraints. They are not lethal if used properly which is why states are starting to allow them. If the captured animal is not in an entanglement situation which is mandatory in PA. the lock mechanism will let off pressure no different than a choke color for a dog, some locks do not which is why you cant use that kind. As far as big game ( deer) or livestock are concerned , these restraints now have whats called a break-away device , again, mandatory, which there are several types, most common is an " s " hook specifically made for a certain pound rating , roughly 300lbs or so which can withstand a captured coyote, but will break open when larger animals pull to get free such as deer. As in anything ever, nothing is perfect , we refer to those things as accidents. As far as cable restraints being cheaper, yes they are, but being left behind by sportsmen and woman thats more of an ethics discussion which is a whole topic by itself. A lot of testing , time and money and effort went into allowing cable restaints being legal to use, and probably the number one reason in my opinion is dogs, trappers have dogs themselves , why would they want to kill them , and dead dogs is a huge piece of propaganda for animal rights people to use against all of us. Im done. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I use an over and under. Was tired of jamming autos no matter what i did, mostly late season. The only draw back is not having the third shot, i rationalized its better than no shot, and ive grown fond of the overall shorter gun . My 870 pump never jammed . Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Whaler1 was one one of the first guys to welcome me in the introduction when i got on , thanks Bill Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Best forum ever. Welcome Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Ripnlip, I hear ya. Im from south eastern PA. I dont know whether or not new york has snares on the table or not, i can only imagine the trapping fraternity in new york brings it up every year to get it legal. Wasnt that long ago you could use 220's on land in mew york, not sure why they wouldnt allow cable restraints with relaxing locks to minimize dog deaths???? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Whether money is an issue or not the availability of 12 gauge shells is everywhere vs. 10 gauge Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I have a good buddy in Kansas that trains dogs and has some connections , but thanks.

Hope to see some pics of ducks in that dogs mouth in a few weeks. Very versatile dog for sure, buddy of mine has one and has had a couple at one time. Was thinking about getting one. Lost my yellow lab a few years ago. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G730A using Lake Ontario United mobile app