Stillwater
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Thanks for the tips. I am at the north end. Hope to get out tomorrow. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
I interpreted their reference of it to a "feel good" stocking program to be sort of a high brow put down of the great work being done by concerned sportsmen. From some of the background history I have read about Captain Bob Flavia and Mr. Bouchard the DEC resisted them since the beginning in 1989. Not surprising they are not praising it now. Reluctant participation is better than none... I guess. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Very Nice catch lyk2fish, how deep were you getting the bows? I may give it a try next week. Thanks. Hear of any walleye being caught on Owasco this year? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Hat's off to all the SLR walleye stocking pioneers and volunteers. Unless some other data is shared it appears that the primary cause for the walleye population growth is this "feel good" stocking program. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Thanks for sharing this. Learning a lot of great things about them. Roaming must be in their DNA? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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According to the SLR Valley Sportsmen's Clubs face book page they have stocked about 1 million walleye total so far. That has got to have made a major contribution to the overall population in the upper and lower river sections. Fish naturally love to swim upstream against the current. Ogdensburg stocked fish are probably migrating up river. Kevin's proposal for a tagging study would be able to confirm this for sure. Neat pictures of netting walleye to collect eggs. https://www.facebook.com/St-Lawrence-Valley-Sportsmens-Club-218012358215701/
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I have done a little looking on the DEC website and found a related "St Lawrence River Fish Communities" page. At the bottom of this page there are 3 links to .pdf documents. Take a look at the middle one labeled "2015 St. Lawrence River Fisheries Update". This contains graphs showing population trends for the major game fish species. It is interesting that the Walleye population really grew in the last 15 years. It peaked in 2009 and is currently looking like it is on the increase again. This may be in line with the stocking efforts for the SLRWA that has been underway. Glad to find this information. Looks like their are a couple more links within this .pdf with more background as well. Good rainy day reading. Good luck everyone. I hope to fish the river again in late August or September. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/102945.html
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Congratulations on a great fish. Thanks for sharing. Is it your biggest ever? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Maybe someone from SUNY ESF would like to take it up as a masters or Phd thesis project. You would think that the DEC fisheries at the Cape Vincent research site and world class research boats and equipment would jump all over this one. To me the walleye is a very unique and valuable game fish that still has a lot of unknowns surrounding it. This is an example of the gap in available science / information. The US and State government spends a lot of money to study many things that are far less useful and even wasteful. If you look at the DEC fisheries website they post their annual research and fisheries updates. This would be higher on the list than many that I have seen. Oh well. I did read that they were slow to get on board with the SLRWA efforts to help boost the walleye. Maybe a not invented here view?
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Hi EsoxAC3, A group dedicated to SLR walleye propagation, research, education and sport fishing exists. Google st Lawrence river walleye association. Pretty interesting group that has done a lot from what it says. Maybe folks on here would be interested in joining. They may have some population data. Looks like they are farther east primarily. Marty. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Hi Kevin, With the increase in fishing pressure have you experienced a drop in your catches vs prior seasons? If the regular experts on the river start to see a catch rate decline then I think some protective change would be worth trying. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Great outings and photos Kevin. Thanks for sharing. Some of my most memorable fishing outings are the ones with my daughters, especially when they catch fish. -
Very nice looking limit Border Angler. Way to go. Interesting that it was full of zebras. I could understand a few eaten when feeding near bottom but to be full of them it must have been intentional snacking? -
Outstanding catch guys. Looks like they are opportunistic feeders. Did they bite after sunrise? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Wow that is a big Rockie Kevin, and way to get on those eyes to! I seem to remember them eating well. Roybee doesn't it make you want to go right back out and try again even more? On my last trip a couple weeks ago I thought for sure I would connect but didn't. Now it feels like the river is calling me back. -
I had the same experience jigging after sunset last week. Goby worm stealing dropped off but if it wasn't moving they found it. I just found a study by Ontario dnr that says they found them to feed most actively at night. With there small eyes maybe they forage on the bottom more at night so the floating harness probably helps keep them away from worms. Anything that will help is good. Thanks rayfish. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Very nice Rayfish! Did you have any problem with gobies stealing your crawlers with the floating harnesses? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Just tried it again and for some reason it worked this time. Thanks Pap! -
I like your idea Pap. I have a nice large drift sock that I can try next time. Didn't want to do too many things at once this time with the bouncers. Did get a feel for how they run, lure action and how the rod loads up etc. I had 14 pound test on and with the homemade ones I was concerned about the weight being to much. Need a stiffer rod as well for that. It was bending too much. Esox, thanks for your comments. Sounds like we face similar boat control issues and are both hooked by the walleyes. Makes it interesting. I have a fairly heavy bayliner 20.5 open bow that is a fun recreational boat but not ideal for SLR walleye fishing unless like you said it is a favorable wind to drift with the current through the good runs. (Anyone know how I can get a profile picture to post without turning upside down. I tried posting both ways and it wants to turn my pic so it is upside down?)
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Sounds good Prof T, I was on the river last week as well. What a great run of weather. I am still a walleye beginner and soaking things up. Did not catch any eyes but had one come up to the top chasing my jig on Thursday evening. Took a big swirling swipe at it and went back down into the dark. Did not find them willing to take the jig and crawler like my past visits in 2014 and 2015 (which were both in early September). Experimented this time with some homemade bottom bouncers just to see how they would run. It was during day light but I was not ready for the night shift with them. My boat trolls to fast, about 2 - 2.2 mph into the current and that is something I know I will need to address to be effective. Nice catch Esox. Maybe a muskie bite on your walleye? Good luck to those lucky enough to get out. I am going to be back later this summer. Stillwater.
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Hi everyone, I am a new member and find the forum to be a great place to read what is happening around Lake Ontario, Oneida, Finger Lakes and SLR. I have learned a ton and am on the learning curve for walleye especially. I trailer my boat from Rochester mainly for day trips. Looking forward to participating. Thanks. Stillwater.
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Could it have been from a muskie bite? Nice job getting him. (I fished last week and had a tough time finding them. Had one walleye chase my jig right up to the surface just before sunset on Thursday evening and that was it. Managed to get a bass and pike on Saturday morning. Learned a lot though trying different things and got to know the water more. Weather was awesome).
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Could it have been from a muskie bite? Nice job getting him. (I fished last week and had a tough time finding them. Had one walleye chase my jig right up to the surface just before sunset on Thursday evening and that was it. Managed to get a bass and pike on Saturday morning. Learned a lot though trying different things and got to know the water more. Weather was awesome).
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Maybe a Muskie attack?
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Maybe a Muskie attack?
