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To illustrate his point on temp variations I ran the hawk east side last weekend north of plant water temp at surface 62 water at 80 ft 61 water at 90 ft 59 water at 100 55... Move to east side water at 80 was 55 directly across the lake Move north of sheldrake temp at 45 feet was 55 .... Mad variations Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Interestingly enough I caught fish damn near under their cable while the air gun was blasting so not sure how much it affects or doesn’t Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I am continually impressed by the openness of the majority of LOU members to share experiences good or bad so that others may learn....this kind of sharing makes people think and can help save others ....and improve our collective abilities.... and lowering your antenna was right call..vhf is line of site it might have extended your range but it can always be put back up.... I carry a portable waterproof for 120.00 for the oh ... c... situations...

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If you are paying attention to Radar and you pay attention to clouds you might see it coming, however thunderstorms can be imbedded in other cloud cover and can move upwards of 50 kts speed over ground. It is not that hard while out fishing and doing other activities to be caught unaware. They also don’t necessarily give you warning thunder... The guidance is get off the water if you can, the next is get as close to taller items as you can. Anchoring allows you to stay low in the boat.. not having to drive.. the depth is an obvious duh if it’s too deep ..I forgot to add shutting off all electronics.... The worst position is to be in the middle of the lake.... I doubt anyone would have a problem providing shelter if you put your boat into shore though no legal duty exists... Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Since the original poster was asking a what if you get caught out I will address that only all of the previous posts are good but IF you can’t run and you are stuck... One get as close to shore line as possible so you are not the highest point. Two fold all antennas down to lower your profile Three anchor your boat solidly and maintain an anchor watch for dragging. Four if you can tie up to any dock you can exit the boat and get under tree cover. Five if you can’t anchor or tie up to any dock stay close to shore heave to bow into wind, keep engine running and be prepared for changing wind direction keep bow into wind and quartering to any significant waves... Ultimately not being there is the best... but those are things you can do to help if you get pinched... Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

To followup, I met with them this morning and they will be giving the securite briefing on the radio when they begin operations, they are now flying the appropriate marker of a vessel with a stern tow over 250 meters so they are now legal and they are doing soundings, the cable however is submerged deeply and should not be a hazard but do not cross astern between them and the tow... Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Thank you for that, it was a good read. Although the point of my interest was the safety of the operation of the vessel towing a sparsely buoyed 2500 foot cable.....after all these posts I have now read about 60 pages of materials on the salt mine, its location, depth, and the collapse of the mine you reference. There is an apparent case in the courts currently to force disclosure and a full impact study of the shaft 4 construction that is currently in process. Decision apparently pending shortly (challenged as to meeting a time deadline it was a little late to be filed so DEC and Cargill are trying to get it tossed) Now the mine at Cayuga is fully two times deeper than the one that collapsed, so an extra 1000 foot or more of bedrock probably helps but a collapse would likely be catastrophic and pardon me for not trusting government and big businesses but I would certainly like outside opinions and views on the mine expansion which apparently DEC and Cargill appear to be very much against much transparency. Pennsylvania was that way with the coal mines now we have the ever burning coal fire and a ghost town and various other environmental disasters as a result. If the science is so solid prove it, don't hide behind the veil of trade secrets...your mining salt not creating a nuclear weapon. It has always been dismaying to me how a gov agency like DEC is so ready to say...hey its been working so far so lets just keep going.... without any studies or critical looking... I applaud Clean as they seem to be the driving organization I think for the lawsuit seeking disclosure and environmental impact studies, the same as Cornell was required to do for their water cooling system using the lake. Pretty big risks without some oversight or critical review....

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Yeah I have checked notice to mariners no mention of the work listed and not flying appropriate day signals as well as insufficient markings on cable ...I will be pursuing it

If anyone sees him out again get me a registration number...please

It appears they ran entire lake

Yes they were mapping the bottom

Yeah me too I was also concerned with the safety of the operation 2500 is a long ass tow

Here is your mystery solved....... It is a research vessel towing a 2500 foot cable, they are doing depth soundings supposedly to explore a shipping channel, per the captain on board the vessel. I questioned him Sunday as he passed beside me. He was not flying the appropriate day signals for what he was doing to indicate the tow, he had a small skiff bringing up the rear of the tow and another vessel running interference with boats that might run into the cable. On the whole it was a less than safe operation....but that is what it was.