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Fished yesterday and they are sticking to everything time for heavy mono lines on the riggers any small diameter lines were getting covered and plugging rod eye's. Sent from my SM-T727A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Good to hear from you Dale. I didn't mean to hijack your thread in any way. I just am a firm believer in full pass threw shots no matter what. I think that alot of people worry to much about speed now instead of shooting arrows that are tough enough to do the job that we expect them to. Everything changes with heavy arrows. The deer even react completely different when hit with a heavy arrow. Bows are more silent there are so many benefits that are over looked just to gain 20 or 30 ft per second. I also don't like that alot of people were taught by others to aim back to stay away from the front shoulder because arrows were not designed to make contact with bone and that has lead to alot of 1 lung and maybe liver at best shots. Shooting a heavy arow set up with a tough solid broadhead gives you the ability to tuck right in to the shoulder with the confidence that if something goes wrong you have the ability to split shoulder bones and still enter the most leathal part of the chest cavity closest to the heart. It's all knowing your limitations not Shooting out side of them and having a arrow that is designed to do the dirty work when something un expected happens. I'd be interested in the GPS on my arrow. Sent from my SM-T727A using Lake Ontario United mobile app

This concept I'm my opinion would be great if your arrow stayed in the animal. However in my opinion if your arrows are not passing threw the animals I believe you should really re evaluate the arrows and broad heads that you are using. I'm a firm believer in the Ashby tests and have been shooting heavy Foc arrows for years with solid fixed blade broad heads. The whole supper speed arrow craze in my opinion really did absolutely nothing for bow hunting. Shoot heavy bone splitting arrows shoot to kill not for a blood trail. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Anyone have any good starting points for some silvers on Cayuga. Can't seem to get threw the lake trout to pick some up. Fishing through out the hole water colomn and still grabbing Lakers. Mostly fishing north end of the lake but willing to travel. Been picking Lakers way out of temp and way out of normal laker speed. Thanks in advance tight lines folks Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks. Kind of the same path I'm heading running it behind a big paddle to give it more action. Thanks again for the input. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Wondering if anyone has ever run a fly set up with teaser's. Basically running a meat rig but having a fly instead of the meat set up. I tie my own fly's so have the material but never see this setup being used. Before I waist my time is there a reason? I can't see a reason it wouldn't work. Just looking for something to play around with. Thanks. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Does anyone or has anyone ever run a standard fly rig with teaser's. Basically running a meat rig but instead of the meat head and meat strip using a Fly instead. Just a curious if anyone has had success with this set up. Something to play with on slow days. thanks Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Again thanks for your insight. Yes not interested in catching the fresh stocked browns. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Sorry thank you Les. Not Seth I just re read my post. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks guys I've caught a fair amount of them trolling during the day but it's always kind of a surprise. And I'm looking for a chalange or maybe a way to target them specificly. I understand the temps and also know fishing the fingers is a whole different ball game than fishing lake Ontario. Thanks Seth. I always look forward to your opinions on topics. And also thanks Nick with I respect you giving up info knowing it can effect your business publicly sharing your secrets. Tite line guys and all of the luck to you this season Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Any one out there have any tips for catching browns on Cayuga as the season progresses. I catch them on here and there but can hardly say I have a pattern figure out for them. Not looking for any secret spots but more general patterns. And spoon/ plug / flasher fly options. I know boat shyness comes more in to play and I have all the toys to combat that. I also have the understanding of temps. I just never have been able to put together a productive brown program. Thanks alot and Tite lines Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I don't believe there is. There is a big tournament the weekend before. And Bear usally has his summer tournament mid July. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Any body know where I can get a lowrance total scan transducer as soon as possible. Sonar is not working thanks in advance Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thank you sir. I hope I don't have a problem that I have to chase down. Sounds like a pain and I hate electrical issues Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

What would be a appreciate voltage on the wire to have. I've heard and read that .5 to .7 is exceptable. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thank you frogger for the response. I'm going to take voltage measurements next time I'm at the boat. Did you find the riggers to repel fish. I haven't noticed anything else on the boat caroding deafinatly not getting any shocks. I feel like I'm chasing a coincidence but I'm doing some fine tuning on the boat and if I'm having a problem deafinatly want to fix it. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

My riggers also do have auto stop but I'm not as concerned about that if the wire is actually repelling fish. I can stop my riggers all day long manually if that means putting more fish over the side of the boat. I am catching fish on the riggers but I am noticing a bigger than normal difference between the riggers and divers. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks for the replys I guess I'm not as worked about having to little a charge as I am having to much. I know the electrical fields can attract or repel fish and I won't have the answer untill I test the system. If I did have a " hot " boat I'm just wondering what the easiest way to remidy the problem is. I have never used braid on a downrigger I guess I have never noticed quite a large difference in catch rates between the riggers and divers. My divers have always caught more than the riggers even before this boat but it seems the numbers are way more different than in years past. Sent from my KYOCERA-E6920 using Lake Ontario United mobile app