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Been a very long time, but I can recall some nice panfish there... Took my son and my 7 YO grandson out for perch, panfish, Bass, etc.. I freely admit I don't know the lake, so we went with weed lines, points, shallow to deep transitions etc... No matter where we went or what we did, ALL our fish were really tiny,,, Biggest fish we caught was a perch maybe 10 inches, if you stretched him. Two tiny 6 inch bass rounded out the day, but were not targeting bass today to be fair.. I wanteed my grandson who LOVES to fish to have a blast with some nice big sunnies and perch. He caught a ton, but they were all 4- 5 inches. The Bluegills and Pumpkinseeds were all in splendid spawning colors, so were mature fish , but the average size was astoundingly small... Smallest perch and sunfish I have encountered since moving to the FL region 29 years ago... I fish Skaneteles often, and see some of our friends here complaining about the size of the panfish there... They are massive compared to what we caught at Waneta.. I suppose I might have done something wrong, or were there at the wrong time, but we did catch a lot of fish.. Just an astoundingly small average size in every place we fished on the lake... I fish with my grandson on Cayuta Lake, and at Park Station, two extremely hard fished small lakes, and have always caught better size fish at both places, and only fish them because they are close... I dunno, did I miss something in my thoughts that Waneta was a very productive lake with a lot of good size fish?, or am I just a bad fisherman? bob

Yes there was a guy netting sawbellies with one.. I didn't know that particular regulation, as I have never considered using one in fresh water, but would certainly have told him if I thought about it if I knew, for his own sake,... In a state park no less.. In NJ where I am originally from many years ago, those throw nets are everywhere, Most striper/weakfish/fluke /fisherman with boats use them constantly.. They catch Mossbunkers/ Menahaden a large oily Herring, and what are locally known as "peanut bunker" which are small ones, virtually indistinguishable from ort own freshwater Landlocked Alewives.. They are superalative bait in salt water. I have seen the cast nets in use so often in my time, I never even gave a thought that someone might be breaking state law by using one... bob

Not me personally.. However, I was camping with famiily close to Taughannock and visited the park friday and fished from shore with worms with my 7 YO grandson saturday... There were a LOT of fishermen, almost shoulder to shoulder in some places at the park.. The sawbellies are involved in their yearly spawn along the shoreline, and the fish have followed them in.. Saw lots of really nice salmon and some big lakers, caught on sawbellies suspended under slip bobbers..... This was mid afternoon, the fish seem to bite in small windows any time during the day with long lulls, from most of the conversations I had... Saturday at dawn it was madness.. People lined up shoulder to shoulder with sabiki rigs, tiny gold hooks, and even a guy with a cast net, all getting bait for the day... Its not a blitz, you see maybe 10 fish for 20 guys, so some go home without, but these are big fish from the shoreline,,, Saw NO dinks... I know its not for most members here, as this forum is mostly trollers, but it IS a viable alternative that gives shore bound anglers a real shot at a big trout or salmon... One guy launching his rig at the marina was going out to cast the shoreline with swim baits, and other casting type lues, and said he has done very well with that technique for the salmon when they are in tight to shore keying on sawbellies..... Saw no browns, no rainbows caught, in the 2 days just salmon and lakers... This action should wrap up within a few weeks... bob

No its still available,,, bob

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Sorry, no pics.. Camera down ... It looks well used, could use some paint... Some bite marks out of the cav plate where someone had badly installed a doel fin, or stingray type planing device.. Motor tracked straight and true always... Lookned us decent when cleaned up, not awful cosmetically, but not great either.... bob

come get it.. If it doesn't run decent for you, I will give your money back, no questions, no hassles... I was going to keep it as a parts motor, but the lower units are totally different... Its just taking up space here... Starters for it on ebay are about $60... bob

Yes it runs... Has 120 PSI compression each cyl.. Needs a starter, as I removed it to use on my 30HP ,,, It was being used until a few weeks ago when I bought a 30 HP in better shape ,,good lower unit, NO water in gearcase,, always got me to where I was going and got me home... Has a few issues besides the starter that aren't a big deal, that I can discuss with those interested. Has a cross threaded plug hole, thats been that way forever, and just before I replaced it, the water stopped coming out of the weep hole.. However, it IS pumping water out the exhaust ports as normal, and the motor does NOT get hot... The dealer said its probably a small piece of crap or scale that can be blown out in the small passage to the weep hole.... No controls, as I am using them on my 30... Buy it, if it doesn't run for you, I will gladly refund The $100 without any question and with a smile...;; Just want it out of the yard... The bad starter does come with it, if you want to try and rebuild it.... . $ 100 firm... Just the lower unit alone is worth 3 x that... Water pump was replaced about 10 "run hours" ago, last year...bob

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Better clarity as you went north.. Also less muddy on the eastern shoreline than it was mid lake at the same depth... Is the state going to leave those hazards in the inlet I wonder.. A few looked like they can clean a lower unit off with one hit... bob

Got out for a late afternoon into evening session.. Morning bite might have been much better... Inlet is an absolute mess... Had to dodge submerged logs, and horrific looking wood junk thats actually imbedded in the bottom, and is just at or below the surface right at prop level... Thats not to mention the half submerged floating logs.. South end was a mess with the north wind, and water was very muddy... got nothing first few hours flat lining stick baits... Started casting and nailed a very nice brown... A real basketball. only 21 inches long yet it was 6 pounds!.. Hit a metal blade bait that I normally use for jigging deep water lakers... Had another casting the same lure, but it got off.... Late in the day after 7 PM started trolling again back toward the inlet in the mud, and had a good fish hit on a Jointed silver/black Rapala.. Came unpinned after a short battle,,, So not really great fishing, but did manage one good fish... Water still cold as hell.. best I could manage was 44 near shore in say 13 feet and under, and 42 closer to mid lake where the water is 20- 25 feet deep on the south end,, This was after having the whole afternoon to"warm up"... I have never seen the water this cold in mid May... Others may have... Got out at pre dawn this morning trying for a walleye or two in the susquehanna,, but no soap... Water is ice cold there as well.. Did get 2 SMB but they were obviously really slow and lethargic.. Barely could feel the hit,, very slow sluggish battle, and no leaping that river smallies are famous for....Other guys do very well in muddy ice water, but personally I don't, and I prefer flat line trolling when the water is closer to 50 and a little clearer,, Still, can't complain, didn't get skunked... bob O

They spread out as the water warms.. I catch perch all summer.. Some nice ones too,... Not huge numbers like in the spring, but they are around, and typically, there are other fat panfish mixed in as well... Big Bluegills, Pumpkinseeds, Rock bass are all good eating as well, and when that stuff is avaulable, there are always some perch mixed with them... The south end of the lake has some good panfishing in late spring/early summer, but that fishery develops long after the north end f perch ishing... bob

well, if there are 60 boats fishing that small area on a day to day basis, you won't have long to wait for the fishing to "slow down"... Perch are just as vulnerable to over harvest as any other species,,,,,, bob

Runs fine at planing/high speed.. Very strong at high speed actually..Idles poorly, and sneezes at idle and low speed. I think its a vacuum leak, possibly lower crank seal... Replaced upper crank seal and it seemed to get worse.. Was a bit rough and sneezy at low speed but was perfectly usable.. even trolled with it a few weeks ago... Replaced the upper seal, hoping it would help the rough idle,, but its worse... Still strong at cruising speed, but I have had it, done replacing parts and am simply going to replace it... It needs someone thats better aquainted with 2 strokes than I am.. Compression is even on both cyls at about 110 psi, new water pump, pumps plenty strong, new plugs, new valve for prime solenoid,, new fuel pump, solid and quiet lower unit- oil is clean and has no water in it.. Motor was running pretty good at low speed a few weeks ago, until I changed the upper seal, and I should have left it alone. I might have dinged it when I installed it...Its a quick easy job actually, but I am no longer interested... $150 FIRM! takes it away.... If I get a motor with controls, I will include them, but I may need them, not sure as yet... Motor can be started and run for the next few days, until I find another motor and remove this one... If nothing else, its a very good parts engine, but as I said, I think its just a seal leaking vacuum, or possibly a leaky reed... btw, this is an electric start/remote steer motor...bob

The local governments welcome squealers as well, never forget that... Its happening everywhere... People ratting out their neighbors in the name of ""public safety"".. Also, NEVER under any circumstances think that local, county, state police or military/government officials are on your side. They will always follow orders, no matter how unjust, and will arrest you have you thrown in jail if thats the "prescribed penalty" for your "offense", and go home to their own families without a second thought... I know some here will think I'm a conspiracy theory kook, but in world history, millions upon millions of innocent citizens of nations around the world have been imprisoned, tortured or murdered by state /local ""servants"" that were "just doing their job".."only following orders"etc... We have NOT changed that much. Modern society is based on a very thin veneer of normalcy... Things I have seen in the past few weeks have hit me hard, Understand that personal freedom is what the government tells you it is,, NOT what we as individuals think it should be.. Indeed,that veneer of civilization is very fragile indeed.... bob

Launch for Susquehanna River at Hickories Park in Owego closed.. Yer the damn Park is OPEN.. Except for bathrooms, tables,campsites of course,, Yet you can walk anywhere , walk your dogs at the dog walk area, where there were bunch of people... Thats a county park... A mile or 2 upriver, the town launch s closed.. In 30 years, never saw more than 2 trailers at this launch,,SO stupid... State maintained launch at Barton is open, as well as one in Apalachin... Makes NO sense,.. These are all just concrete slab launches, NO docks, no bathrooms close by, unimproved except for the launch area, and grass or gravel unmarked parking... Even in mid summer, you can launch without getting with 50 feet of another human being,, This time of year?.. 200- 300 feet NO problem. This sort of lunacy helps no one... Its all about control, and usurping of individual rights and freedom... bob