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Meat herring
chowder replied to Bassin Bob's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Don't confuse whole bait ( typically alewives) with cutbait (typically fillets of sliced of herring). You usually have to fish whole bait with a bait head that has a single hook in front of the treble to pull the whole bait into a slight curve to get the right rolling action. Cut bait is usually fished with a bait head that has only a treble and the bait head itself is designed to give the rig the right roll. You mix and match these setups but it's a good idea to have the differences in mind before you start getting creative. -
Hope like heck to get out Sunday afternoon!
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OLCOTT 8/2 MORNING
chowder replied to jpiatkowski's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
It seems like we are tired of the language we used to speak. A woman I work with the other day said she "really likes to office at home". 'Office at home',- what does this mean? -
OLCOTT 8/2 MORNING
chowder replied to jpiatkowski's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Not trying to start WW III but I would have to say that overall I've dealt with bone headed moves made by weekend warriors way, way more often than charters. The simple fact is that most charter captains have far more skill and experience in both finding fish and boat control than the average joe. -
These are just rough generalizations but, there are different sonic signatures between braid and wire. Feeding fish will typically respond to wire presentations aggressively. Braid can be more effective with spoons and long leads (Slide diver) when the bite is tough.
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JUST PICKED UP A TIDBIT. Thanks!
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lol
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Reach out to Hank at L&M on here, integrity and a lifetime of smarts.
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Shorter = snappy, aggressive action. Longer = lazy, slow action. Typically meat is supposed to appeal like an easy meal soooo...
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Make sure you have a means to measure down speed and temp. It's critical to run your presentations at the right temp and speed. Additionally you need to know where your divers are running on the setting you have them on. Something to think about also is that the wire diver has very different sound signature that can be appealing to feeding fish. Also you may want to take into account that there are days when riggers outfish divers and vice versa. As long as conditions permit I usually run 2 riggers (1 w/spoon + 1 w/flasher fly), 2 wire divers (usually both w/ FF) or 1 wire diver (FF) + braid slide diver (spoon) , and a junk line(core(spoon) and copper(FF)) off each side on the big boards or big inlines. Then I let the fish speak for themselves. Follow an S pattern across depths this will let you know where the bait/fish are and what speed they want it(outside lines in turn run faster/inside lines in turn run slower). Tight lines- remember it's the journey that counts!
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Many of the manufacturers only make their slashers to rotate in one direction. John King sells them in pairs to rotate opposite directions(port/starboard). In my experiments so far it seems like the slasher flashers have done better than big paddles pulling meat during the mid day doldrums so I thought I'd look into the directional thing and see if I was missing something which it doesn't seem like I was.
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Running large slasher type flashers I've been messing around a little with running the large slasher flashers with meat rigs on divers and copper off the boards. Got a couple simple questions: If they have starboard printed on them I'm assuming that means starboard as you are facing the bow. Also what happens if you run a starboard slasher on the port side- do they actually work towards the boat potentially causing tangles? Last but not least if the tail points to starboard doesn't that mean it should be deployed on the port side? Thanks
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Wow. Bummer man. I'll keep my eyes peeled too!
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Oswego 7-16
chowder replied to chowder's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Reaper report outta The Oak
chowder replied to Bosun Cowboy's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Oswego 7-16 Launched at Oswego because we could not get out at Port Bay due to the flooding. Didn't have any real idea where to go since I've never launched at Oswego before. Fish seemed scattered with a spoon bite for us. Zeroed in on an area in front of the stacks with a strong current & some bait in 200, temp down 100 to 120. Just kept passing through it and we'd get 1 every third or 4th pass through the waypoints.
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Lake Flipped
chowder replied to King Slammin's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Looks fairly extensive, but I didn't look at surface temp back a few days ago http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/ontario/o2.html -
Lake Flipped
chowder replied to King Slammin's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I'm not getting anything from that link -
Lake Flipped
chowder replied to King Slammin's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
How far east is the lake affected by the upwelling? -
Sold / Closed Cannon Mag 10 Downriggers – Excellent Condition (Qty 4)
chowder replied to klrunning's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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See my 165 Alumacraft listed in classified $5700 for a complete setup with autopilot, full winter fishable canvas, merc fuel injected main 4 stroke, and merc 4 stroke kicker. The canvas, auto pilot, and kicker added up to 5 grand. https://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/topic/62987-165-alumacraft-complete-trollingjigging-setup/
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for sale : usa 165 Alumacraft: Complete trolling/jigging setup $5700
chowder replied to chowder's topic in Boats for Sale




