Sk8man

Sounds similar to the problem often encountered with many hollowpoint handgun bullets when material plugs the hole they fail to expand. Doesn't seem to take much either paper, flannel etc.

I'm not defending Trump or the NRA or the positions of extreme gun advocates for that matter. I worked as a mental health professional for more than 30 years and am a Vietnam Era veteran. Being a veteran does not necessarily predispose someone to gun violence, but in some cases the things experienced by some vets may create mental instability, and it is well known that many of these problems are missed, and not properly followed up on or effectively dealt with in our society in general, or by the military in particular. The reporting process in this issue is unreliable, inconsistently applied or not forwarded to other relevant agencies, is sometimes non-existant, and definitely flawed and discontinuous in many cases. Our democratic society with Freedom of Speech, Second Ammendment Rights, and the heavy emphasis on Free Will and Freedom of Expression, and States Rights carries with it significant problems in the area of societal control as well as the many positives, and the consistent monitoring and intervention of various authorities is complicated and based on often solitary or questionable incomplete facts or acts. In other words, as soon as someone does something that others perceive to be problematic, perhaps bizarre, or even potentially dangerous the hands of many agencies are tied by existing Constitutional considerations, combined with inadequate processes and facilities, and/or budgets with which to deal with the problems. In New York State for example, the previous mental health facilities complete with monitoring and oversight functions regarding "patients" either on an inpatient or outpatient basis have been disbanded without replacement processes being in place over many years. There are many people out there without such necessary treatment, medications, follow-up or monitoring, and it is nearly impossible to get people into existing treatment situations or facilities; especially against their will. Much of this relates to previous abuses of power exerted against individual freedoms by bureaucracy, Constitutional issues are highly involved, and most of all budgetary and financial considerations. Some previous decisions by our government has put money before people in a short sighted way and we are left with the societal problems which now are more complicated by many things (opioid crisis only one recent example) as well as much more expensive to try to fix. At present we as a society don't seem to have any competent mechanism to cope with this mess; especially as long as the government puts building expensive bridges and naming them after their father instead of focusing on the real problems confronting us. Can you tell I've had 3 cups of coffee today?

Just make sure you are safely strapped in to a very solid tree in a real good stand. 40 mph winds are nothing to mess with.

It may be something propelled by social media Ben but make no mistake many perhaps well intentioned but greatly misguided. illogical, legislators having virtually no actual firearms knowledge are formulating restrictions based entirely on emotion;not educated informed knowledge of firearms per se. The idea of firearms control in this country in and of itself is illogical given the sheer number of guns out there already and the fact that the crimes involved committed by unstable and/or criminal elements of our society do not pay any attention to laws or social norms. The problems of violence and crimes in this country is much more complex than trying to control legitimate gun owners rights and the people formulating laws seem incapable of understanding the actual narure and complexity of the problem so they default to giving the appearance of "doing something" regardless of the fact that the things they come up with make no sense. Mental illness and criminal activity are at the actual roots of the problem but they seem much beyond the scope of the legislative process to deal with. Social media merely exascerbates the emotional argument from both sides. Cuomo seizees every opportunity to further his own political ambitions and this leads to further emotional turbulance on both sides of the isssue and further clouds any potential progress toward reasonable solutions.

Sweet set-up Tyee

I just received this email from a buddy and figured it coordinates with my initial post. I do not know the exact origin of it and it was from 2014 but the content appears "familiar" and has some things in it off potential concern right now. Date: November 7, 2018 at 3:33:08 PM Subject: I think you all better take this serious. Now that the elections are over and Cuomo is in as is all the other ALBANY DEMOCRATS, and worst of all, we lost the NY STATE GOP SENATE MAJORITY, there is nothing to stop all the submitted gun laws and SAFE ACT 2 from ALL BECOMING LAWS of the NEW YORK LAND. Thus, start thinking of what your next moves will be. good luck, it's going to be UGLY. Maybe some of those NY gun owners that have no problem with the current Safe Act will wake up. Cuomo To Sign SAFE ACT 2 Into Law If He Gets Reelected Posted by Tony Oliva on Oct 13, 2014 in Elections, Email Featured, Featured, Legislation, Tyranny, video | 45 Comments 17.9KSHARES Share Tweet Plus If Governor Cuomo is reelected the framework is all ready in place for passage of SAFE ACT 2. While the Cuomo administration is hesitant to refer to it under that name during an election cycle, it will still be one of the first things he does upon his new term even if he has to manipulate the legislative process again in order to ram it through. Here are the 10 key points of SAFE ACT 2 that will punish law abiding citizens, legal businesses and in general diminish the sparse amount of liberty that remains in the increasingly appropriate named “Empire State”. My commentary italicized. There are some other points, expanding on penalties of SAFE ACT 1 and broadening terms therein but this is the meat and potatoes of what a Cuomo reelection will look like for the citizens of New York. Apparently, SAFE Act 1 was only the prologue and SAFE Act 2 will be the further advancement of the radical gun control ideology that Gov Cuomo holds so dear. To allow Gov. Cuomo to be reelected will be an injustice of the highest order. But it is not only an injustice to New Yorkers but for all gun owners and those who believe in liberty in America. To quote the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. (he himself a victim of gun control like the SAFE Act when he was denied a carry permit): It is for this reason that, even though I am a Pennsylvanian, I am taking a personal interest in supporting the man who has vowed to repeal the SAFE Act, not expand upon it.

I guess some of the responses on this one have missed the target too

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I know Mike....probably wasn't one of my smarter postings

Thye can be installed pretty easily but they need to be solid perhaps reinforced underneath. I have factory Whaler ones and they are very solid.

Another sad day for upstate New Yorkers

I don't know if you already have inset rod holders in the gunwales but I have 4 of them and I use Cannon gimbal mounts in them with 4 electric outlets located nearby along the gunwales two per side. I have olders Cannon Mag 10 A's and Digitrol each with extendable booms on swivel bases. I normally run 2 downriggers off the ends of the stern with one pointed at 45 degrees on the port side and one straight back on the starboard side with the booms extended a little. When I run a third downrigger I run it on the starboard side (away from my trolling motor which is on the port). I extend the boom aways and run the third rigger at 90 degrees while the other on that side is run straight back. I have never had any problem with this setup run for many years and can actually run 4 this way if I extend the fourth port side boom out further. Hope this makes sense to you....I don't have any pics of the set-up. The beauty of it is that I can take the riggers off and on by just unplugging the electrical connection and lifting them out.

Might be effective but really bad idea. Peoples pets could easily be killed by placement OUTSIDE. It s one thing to place the stuff in a contained controlled area such as a private barn where you have no pets or access by neighbors pets but indiscriminate placement is a very different matter.Not everyone here lives or has property well away from others in isolated areas etc.

It is definitely all three of the things we all mentioned temp, wind, and snow cover.

I'll bet the perch are hoping you don't get a chance to get at them I don't know Scott I've only had 65 seasons of ice fishing thus far so pretty small sample size to judge from

Hope she is right Scott. Cold temps are one part of the equation, but an even more important component is wind (velocity and direction). That is where I'm most concerned because so far this year it has been very windy. Good ice needs prolonged cold temps combined with some nearly still days and nights. As long as the water is significantly moving the ice either resists forming or else keeps breaking up before it get solidly formed and especially where there is some open water present.

Ditto on Keith's comment

Just hope they don't flip the glue board upside down.....ever try to get them off concrete once stuck? Don't ask....

Mice respond to peanut butter pretty good but VOLES (which look a lot like them) don't fall for it at all. They do eat shredded tulip or lily bulbs though. They also do a lot more damage than the mice too.

Dryer sheets work fine. I spread them throughout the boat covered by canvas. One of the things thata folks don't think about sometimes is that rodents chew electrical wires and I remember one guys boat at a marina over the winter had his transducer wires chewed up by a muskrat. urine is a component of some plastic s and wire coverings.so maybe that attracts them?