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Who ever mad that last post you are spot on with the action on our lake also. Here in PA there is a lake called Beltzville lake and it's in PA. it is known for trophy size walleye, we natives to the area know some tricks to the trade as a night bite lake it is, although the other day I was buy my self and managed a double about 5-30am, but I started around 1-30am, and nothing all night and a double at the end makes it worth it both were 21 inches, not bad. I know a old fellow that fishes from the bank with an old kero lantern and does rather well, but he plays the moon phases and has a 13#er to prove it with many 8/10/11#ers to prove it. He told me the last 3 days before full moon and the 3 days after then don't waist any of your time in between. I just looked at the moon phase and I couldn't believe it was in that time frame it's almost full moon, so maybe the old guy got something going there with the moon?? I DON"T want to hijack this forum just loved to see those walleyes Justtracytrolling had it's been 3 years since I've been out to western lake Erie and those walleye look just like Erie fish, and this lake fits our lake with it's walleye action. Again thanks for sharing with LOU members as I'm very much a walleye guy and find it very interesting to here other lake predicaments. PAP.

Hello Justracytrolling, If there are a abundance of tiger muskies, and browns, that all those predator fish, I realize that walleye are predator fish also, but those Tigers are animals, do you think that they are raising havoc on the walleye population??. It would be nice to know that the lake is a natural reproduction lake plus a stocked lake also, that board of walleyes you had looked like a western lake Erie picture, and I am a walleye person indeed, I would hit the lake on the way up to lakeO and maybe again on the return in the fall. We have a lake right in my back yard that is loaded with walleye and trophy size also but you have to put your time in for a fish or two, it becomes a recreational lake in the summer and it's only 7 miles long and maybe 2 miles wide, a man made lake, and the boat traffic is just insane all day long so it's a night bite lake, it's a shame but that's the way it is. That being said even before the nuts hit the lake it tough to catch a walleye because it's just loaded with alewives so food is of abundance, but in the spring worm harnesses are the ticket off boards way out. I hope that you find out more about what's going on with the walleyes on lake Otisco. thanks for sharing with fellow members of LOU. PAP

Man you need to take a chill pill, I see how you got your title, things will come together soon, just relax a bit, the lake is by no means overfished, If you want to see overfished go to western Lake Erie, and every year it's just as good as the year before I never seen anything like it!!

Well that's better than Dec 31 2013, maybe by that time they will make it permanent? Look at the bright side it's another 2 years we get to run 3 rods per man. The only drawback will be if they go back to 2 rods it will definitely feel weird and many of us will have outfits we won't be able to use at the same time like dipsys and wire or have to sacrifice a free slider rod. Either way it will take some getting used to. JMO PAP.

I didn't get my new one yet to say if there are any glitzes with it but, there are always 1 or 2 sour apples in the bag and if you are the one with a sour apple it can be very frustrating, I know from this very experience. I have an uncle that can't seem to purchase a depth finder that works for more than a year to save his sole, I used to think he's got to be doing something to cause all these failures so I wired his finder up and put a battery selector switch in so he could put it in the off position to charge is batteries up (thinking voltage spikes) and ran separate grounds and power wire with a fused line (thinking low voltage) and just the other day he called from the lake and said the one I gave him Humming Bird 727 had low hours on it, half the screen went grey, he turned it off and repowered it and it's working but for how long? I know in his hands the unit is on borrowed time, so what I'm trying to say is you are not alone, and when you spend a lot of money you expect the unit to work. I can tell you that this is the most $$$$ I ever spent in my life for a depth finder and by all means it is not the top of the line, but those units are out of my league, maybe if I hit the lottery or when I retire. The Elite 7 is what I consider a top notch unit, and the best bang for your buck. I hope that all you folks with these units work out the bugs and have many years of trouble free operation.

I don't understand why one would say no to dsi if you never used it? I think it has it's places, for walleye, and bass I think it's nice to have. If you are mainly fishing salmon, then it won't serve it's purpose. We many times switched from salmon to walleyes and some times fished smallies where if you have the option to use dsi than by all means use it. For an extra $100.00 it seems foolish not to get that option, once you have it you will find your self using it more than you think. JMO.

Thanks Adk1, I think that's what I'm going to do, I really didn't see a need for the dsi, I'm from the old school and this unit is such an improvement from my old unit which was a Humming Bird 727 about 10 years old, I was blown away with the Elite 7, the screen was so much bigger and a lot clearer, being able to split screens just amazing, can't wait to bolt the new one in and go fishing!!PAP.

My Elite 7 crapped out on me and Cabelas wants to make good on the unit, I really like the elite 7, I purchased the HDI, but I really don't see a need for the DSI. I really didn't get a chance to use it much, before it just wouldn't power up, then when not in use it would power up on it's own, leaving me with dead batteries, if I didn't turn battery selector to off, which I should do all the time, (lesson learned) but wouldn't have found the power up on it's own malfunction, anyway I think I'm going to just get the base unit with the 83/200, which is cheaper, I read the other posts and it seems like others aren't liking the dsi either, I fish for walleyes and mostly out on the big O for lakers and salmon. I'm Looking for other opinion on the dsi mode Yes or NO I have to make a decision soon, so NEED some HELP!!!! Thanks pap.

Might of had crap covering the water intake ports, usually there are 3 screws holding the screen looking plate below the cavitation plate take them off make sure no black pieces of rubber aren't blocking the intake, witch also means the lower unit water pump is shot, not that bad of a job, like SK8man said most likely water pump is bad, don't run motor hot!! that will cost way more than a $50.00 water pump kit!

Yea, I hear ya, I guess those days are gone, the days when life was simple and the every day stuff you could fix your self are gone, with all the new and improved items they put on these boats fail way sooner than the old stuff, can't prove it better in my book (wallet)

I had the same problem last year, mine wouldn't trim down on it's own, if someone pushed on the outdrive it would go down and work until you trimmed all the way up, then same thing. Then I noticed that on the one trim cylinder there was a flat washer and a O ring sliding around on the shaft, not all together like the other one, so I took it off and took it to the marina down the road from me and told him what is going on and he said that water is getting in the cylinder and causing unequal pressure causing resistance in the cylinder, since the wiper O ring and wiper clip was outside of the holder, the end cap was shot and that cost 2/3rds of a new cylinder, I got a new cylinder put it on bled the system and problem solved, sounds like you might have the same problem, he also said the packing inside the cylinder might be letting the fluid to bypass inside also creating a problem, not letting the cylinder to operate correctly, ether way I put a new one on and problem solved. Hope this helps PAP

I have a 1982 Sea Ray weekender and I completely rebuilt everything from ground up and I was told to use the synthetic 80-90 wt, which appears like 30wt, I used Amsoil. I know that stuff runs a lot cooler, because when my uncle had dirt modified race cars, and we went to change ring&pinion you needed gloves on to handle the parts with just 90wt gear oil, with Amsoil, you could take the rear apart without the use of gloves, it was that cool. That sold me, and when it came time to do my boat I knew what I was going to use, no matter what the manufacture said. There wasn't such a thing out in 82. So that is my story and I'm sticking to it. Hope this helps PAP. PS. I used the same 80/90wt for the upper and lower unit. It's a 5.7 bored 30 over with 10-30 Amsoil in crankcase and 80-90wt amsoil on out drive, and it shifts like a new one , absolutely no grinding, just slips into gear. GREAT stuff IMOP.

Man, that sucks, a man works hard to get all that equipment together and then have it ripped off, I would be pissed!!!! WE WILL keep our eyes and ears open for you, I live in the Poconos of pa. But know a lot of people, will keep an eye out. craigslist, ect. sorry to hear such crap!! Things are bad out there guys, trust no one, Take all your valuables out of the boat, these drug induced pieces of crap don't care about you or anything else, I know it's a lot of extra work, but in the long run it will save you time and money. PAP.

That is a fact Trophy, I don't care if I ever step foot on that worthless country again After what they pulled on us 10 years ago at the boarder, that was it for me, We did nothing wrong and they detained us for over 6 hrs at the boarder, stripped our trucks, and boats, left everything on the side walks couldn't charge us with anything, buy they stole my video camera and tried to get us on worm bedding mat. thank GOD, I had some with me to add later in the trip, so I had proof with the bag, or they were going to confiscate or flat of worms, we lost our deposit with the rooms we rented for the night, they were closed till we got there Who ever heard of a motel closing at 1am, supposed to be there around 8pm, no cell service, can't call and explain what's up, so those bastards took our money and ran, slept in the vehicle and on to our destination Had a good week of fishing, and only allowed one days catch to bring back so that's what we did, left a 1"x1" patch of skin on fillets for Id. when we got back to the boarder they asked if we had fish to declare and we said yes, WELL that's when all hell broke loose, Quebec laws and Ontario laws are different as how many allowed in possession. Quebec was 8 and Ontario was 6, we told them and showed the our license which was a Quebec one, no one knew what the right amount was so they started writing us fines, that's when I lost it and demanded a Quebec warden to clear this up, so the contacted someone and found out we were right. I told the Commander I've been coming to this country for 25years with 10 guys at a grand a piece, this is my last trip to your country EVER Since that time on we stay in the states, Ohio for walleyes and New York the rest of the year.

Welcome aboard, The lake as we all known from years ago has changed a lot, many different methods to catch fish, keep an eye on the posts and don't be afraid to ask questions, many knowledgeable folks on this site that will help you out. Good luck to you and your retirement. Tight lines to you and be safe! PAP