Ray4852

I think I know who you are talking about. when I started coming here. this place was a tight click. very good people. I made a lot of friends here. we had very good park managers too. when these people started passing away the click got smaller and different people started coming in. this park started changing about 20 years ago. the state sold this place out to private interest. all we wanted was to update the marina and put in a few seasonal campsites. the state wanted no part of this kind of development. they wanted first class or nothing. state campgrounds have there good and bad points about them. private camps keep out the outsiders like you said.

This use to be a very nice quiet place to fish and camp. when somebody has money they go crazy with development. this place is over developed now. I saw the good old days of this park. its over for me. I camped and fished here 50 years. this is no place for a serious fisherman to fish out of. the trailer parking is terrible here. after May. its turns into a rat race of people and speed bumps. good luck to all who plan to use this place.

its been over 30 years since I fished the upper Niagara river. When I lived in North Tonawanda, I had plenty of nice free boat ramps along river road.. 3 miles from the peace bridge I had rich marina a mile from this ramp I use the ramp at ferry street. the ferry street ramp is free. this ramp is in the hart of the river for fishing. if you don't know anything about this area. the Canada border runs down the middle of the river. if you want to fish the river you should have a Canadian fishing license. my favorite fishing was drifting from the peace bridge down to ferry street. I caught walleye rainbow and brown trout along with nice small mouth bass.

this lamprey problem is here to stay. come back 100 yrs from now. we will still have the problem. Man created this problem back in 1820 when we built the barge canal. when we built the welland canal we connected the whole great lakes system together. what's next. the asian carp.

seneca perch can be hard to find this time of year. weather is changing with strong wind. years ago I was pretty good at finding these perch. sure you can find a few inside 30 ft of water but Most of them will be in deep water. try fishing in deep water with lite fishing gear with wind 10 mph or more. its impossible to feel them hit along with the wind pushing you down the lake. you have to anchor your boat and you have to know were to anchor. its not easy. this time of year the north end is good if you can get a nice day with lite wind. I like to start out in 60 ft and drift in till I can find the depth they are at. the guy that started this thread. why do you want to fish Seneca. you have better fishing up on those Lake Ontario creeks. oak orchard will have some good perch fishing soon. these perch are easy to catch compared to what you have to go thru to find fish on Seneca. Seneca perch fishing is very overrated today. the perch schools years ago were massive. I blame the cormorants for the small perch numbers today and along with our foolish game laws that we fisherman can sell our catch. get rid of the cormorants and get rid of this damaging stupid fish law now. in 3 years we will have more than enough perch state wide.

I'm late to this thread but the information I post now will be good information for future use. you get what you pay for when you buy a battery. we have wet cell batteries, AGM and lithium lifepo4. standard wet cell are not meant for heavy duty use. 100 amp cost about 100 dollars. you can only discharge it to a 12.20 state of charge. this is 50 percent. next AGM. they build a different kind of battery. you still have to be careful how far you discharge this battery also. 50 percent is what they say works well for this battery. I never let my AGM go below 30 percent. this is 12.40 state of charge. the best AGM to buy are lifeline and the vmaxx battery tanks. they cost up to 300 dollars for a 100 amp battery. they have bigger AGM also but cost a lot more. I have one vmcxx now its 5 years old. good battery for the money. you can buy them on Amazon for 250 dollars for a 100 amp battery. lithium is different tecnology. I have one now. its 100 amp battle born battery. I paid 950 dollars for it 3 yrs ago. I think now they have come down to 900 . what I like about this battery I can discharge it below 50 percent every time I use it. company says I can discharge down to 20 percent with no damage to the battery. I use lithium in my camper when I do a lot of boon docking up in the high hills of the central Adirondacks. lithium has some very serious disadvantages when you use it below 32 degrees. you can still use the battery but can't charge it or you will destroy the battery. lithium if you take care of it. this battery should last 10 to 15 years with 3000 to 5000 charge cycles. my battle born comes with a 10 year warranty. next you need a battery charger for lithium. they cost up to 150 to 500 dollars for a high amp charger. next you need a battery monitor. the state of charge is all different with lithium. I use the vectron battery monitor. right now the only lithium I can recommend is battle born. there made in the US. all others they sell right now don't match up to the battle born. lithium some day will be a standard battery in our boats and RV. but it will take at least 10 years before they come down to an affordable price. over all lithium is the best battery we can buy. that depends how deep your pocket is and how much you want to pay for a battery.

Bob I understand how you feel about your 2 stroke engine. there might be a lot of old two strokes left. most of them are on there last leg. once your old 2 stroke dies. what's left. I agree the 4 strokes are big and heavy on an older boat. I have 1989 Lund boat with a Mercury 115 hp 6 cyl that weighs about 300 pounds. the transom can carry about 400 pounds. back in 1989 that boat was rated for a 130 hp motor. I feel your pain about paying 10 grand for a new motor. at my age it make no sense to pay that much money for a new boat and motor. I figure I have only 2 to 5 years left to fish. after that I will find a new hobby and enjoy life a different way. if you need a new motor soon. look on your boat decal and look for the weight on your transom can carry. my case I could not go with the 100 hp 4 stroke I probably go with a motor that weighs about 250 pounds. my transom will handle this with no problem. probably 70 hp motor. you do the same thing. no need to worry. the problem with us old farts. the world is changing everyday. we don't change with it. I'm not pushing for this new boat law. its here already. a lot of small lakes up in Canada already banned 2 stroke motors its coming here to the states soon. big corporation don't tell us how to live technology does. big corporations follow where the money goes and they build it. the problem with our society we have drifted to far to the left. we drove out all our business to have a socialist economy in our state. to many people are living off the backs of our people that want to work. thats why our people can't go out and buy a new boat and motor. the economy in this state is broke because we have to many taxes and regulation that make no sense at all.

I agree with a lot of things bob said about 2 stroke motors. 2 strokes motors were good motors during their time. we didn't have the technology 50 years ago to build a nice 4 stroke motor. the oil we used years ago was terrible. all it did was carbon up the cylinder and rob engine life. those old motors were hard to start. they leaked gas into the lake. the motor itself was a greasy mess. the emission on them stunk to high heavens when you trolled for hours with one. the only good thing I can say about them. they were lighter and easier to install on the boat. don't play that poor mans crap with me. the 4 stroke motors build today cost a lot less than a 2 stroke motor. we might pay a few dollars more up front to buy a new 4 stroke but over the life of the motor. the 4 stroke will cost you nothing with gas savings alone. I love my 4 stroke kicker motor. I can troll almost 50 hours on 6 gallons of gas. can you get the hours out of the 2 stroke 12 hours plus smell the smoke. we have new technology right now. lithium batteries. we can troll for almost the same hours we get with our 4 strokes with a small electric motor. I don't think we will see any 2 strokes on any lake in the next 10 to 20 years from now.

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