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I rent a place on Fourth Lake in the Fulton Chain in early August every year, on the sand bar area, which is becoming known as the "Redneck Riviera" for all the pontoon boaters and jet skiers who pull up to within 100 feet of shore, anchor, drink beer, and then "wet down" every 20 minutes (a whole other story in rude and inconsiderate). The shallow zone is clearly marked with pin buoys, and where it veers further out into the lake, there is a large lighted buoy that marks a fair size pile of boulders that were placed out in the lake in the 1800's as the end of the wooden pier that served the Eagle Bay Yacht Club, long since gone. Inside the marked area there is a 5 mph speed limit, well advertised in brochures on Fulton Chain navigation laws (there are quite a few) published and distributed all over the area by the Fulton Chain Association. One major source of entertainment at the camps is watching the obviously well off boaters run inside the pins at speeds of up to 25-30 mph, and occasionally hit the rockpile. The camp owner even has a nice collection of "parts", including a nearly complete lower unit, mounted to the point where the dock originally anchored to shore. The kayakers that like to pass within 2 feet of the end our short docks occasionally ask why all the rocks in the pile near the surface are shiny, and we tell them it is aluminum ore! You'll never get a required course as long as Marina Owners can rent out pontoon boats and jet skies!

Here's the Bay laws. I was wrong, it is within 300 feet. As to drifting if you are not anchored or tied or moored, you are underway. Section 45-AAA Special provisions relating to speed on Irondequoit bay Navigation (NAV) Share Facebook Twitter Email 1. No vessel shall be operated on Irondequoit bay, which is located within Monroe county, at a speed exceeding twenty-five miles per hour unless such vessel is being operated for the purpose of enabling a person engaged in water skiing or other water sport to be towed, in which case no such vessel shall be operated at a speed exceeding thirty-five miles per hour. 2. No vessel shall be operated in the channel between Irondequoit Bay and Lake Ontario or within three hundred feet of the shore, the channel, a dock, pier, raft or float or an anchored or moored vessel in a manner or at a speed that causes a wake that unreasonably interferes with or endangers such dock, pier, raft or float or an anchored or moored vessel but in no event at a speed exceeding five miles per hour, unless for the purpose of enabling a person engaged in water skiing to take off or land. 3. The provisions of this section shall not apply to any vessel competing in or practicing for a regatta or boat race over a specified course held by a bona fide club or racing association, provided that due written notice of the date of the race has been given to the appropriate law enforcement agency at least fifteen days prior to such race, pursuant to the provisions of section thirty-four of this chapter, and all provisions of this section have been complied with. 4. Any person who operates a vessel in violation of any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a violation punishable as set forth in section seventy-three-c of this article. 5. Nothing in this section shall be construed as prohibiting any town or county from continuing, adopting or enacting any other local laws, resolutions or ordinances related to persons operating a vessel within its limits, but no such municipality shall have the power to make less restrictive any of such provisions. SECTION 45-AASpecial provisions relating to reckless operation and speed on Canandaigua lake; Keuka lake SECTION 45-AAAASpecial provisions relating to reckless operation and speed on Greenwood Lake

The Coast Guard writes folks for all kinds of things around here, as does the County Sheriff. Lots of laws are flouted, red lights, stop signs and double yellow lines appear to be mere suggestions anymore. Getting the Registration Number and reporting someone goes a long way toward getting action, too. Here is some of the law for the St Lawrence. Section 102 Rules governing the operation of motor boats Navigation (NAV) Share Facebook Twitter Email The following rules for the operation of motor boats within such zone are hereby established: 1. No motor boat shall be operated within a harbor line at a speed exceeding five miles per hour. The waters of the Saint Lawrence river lying southerly of Wells Island and northwesterly of a line drawn from the easterly tip of Wells Island beginning at a point known as "The Chalet" and easterly and southerly of Saint Elmo Island and continuing southerly of Dewey Island, Nobby Island, and, terminating at the steamship dock, southerly of a point known as "Hope Well Hall"; and the waters of the Saint Lawrence river lying northerly of the mainland of the town of Alexandria, Jefferson county, New York, and southerly of a line drawn from the point of land beginning on the mainland known as Bonne Castle and northerly of Squaw Island to the southwesterly part of Cuba Island, shall constitute harbors for all the purposes mentioned in this article. 2. Every person operating a motor boat shall at all times operate the same in a careful and prudent manner and at such a rate of speed as not to endanger the property of another or the life or limb of any person. 3. No motor boat shall be operated in a reckless manner. Reckless operation shall include operating a motor boat in a manner which unnecessarily interferes with the free and proper use of the waters of said river, or unnecessarily endangers other craft therein, or the life or limb of any person. 4. No motor boat shall be operated during the period from one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise at a greater speed than fifteen miles per hour. No motor boat shall be operated during the period from one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset at a greater speed than thirty miles per hour. The provisions of this section shall not apply to any motor boat while actually competing in a race held under the auspices of a racing association, chamber of commerce or duly incorporated yacht club. The provisions of this section are intended to supplement other provisions of this chapter and applicable regulations. The more restrictive provision should be applied if more than one law or rule could be applied to a given situation. SECTION 101Motor boat regulation zone SECTION 103Violations

As to your question, 5 mph speed limit within 100 feet of an anchored boat, go out and anchor on Irondequoit Bay sometime and see how many observe that one (and it is 200 ft on I Bay!).

He originally asked a "simple question" about kayak trolling in the Salmon River estuary, and apparently could not handle the level of detail graciously provided by those of us who responded. We should have just told him to stay under the bridge!

It takes one to know one!

Don't post to begin with asking questions and partially reading the answers! The guy who posted about one rod two rods, and Lake Huron sounded Canadian. You sound like a EDITED. You are welcome, and...and EDITED! Topic Closed & Locked

The above sounds like it is Canadian. I think the OP is asking about the Salmon River in New York. He was asking about the estuary, which comes under tributary regulations, in his other post. The estuary is a part of the river regulations and begins at the lake as follows, "From the upstream most navigation buoy located between the breakwalls at the mouth of the river upstream to the County Rt. 52 bridge in Altmar." That is all of the river except the fly only sections. http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/fishing/special-regulations-great-lakes-tributaries/ Until October 15, one hook point, which also means one rod. After October 15, floating lures can have multiple points, but you will not likely be in the estuary then. If you are out in the lake in NYS, you can use three rods, but that I want to see with a kayak, it is hard enough alone in a small boat. IF you do go out in the big pond, remember that it changes VERY rapidly, and is VERY unforgiving.

You will finds that the difficulty in this area is deciding where to go and what to fish for, as there are so many places that hold fish and so many varieties of fish. Even if it is winter and pretty much a steelhead game, it can be problematic to decide where to go try for them, and a summer charter can also present issues of what to go after. Spring and Fall, forget about it!!!! Thanks for the compliment to the Rachacha area, we usually get told we are smug!

Aside from the difficulty in sampling for "shakers," it is my recollection that NYSD EC indicated that the first year of LO life for a King involves eating bugs, they do not start chowing on alewife until the second season. If one year olds could find YOY alewife, they could eat them, but Brian Weidel of USGS explained at the SOL a couple of years ago that a given year’s alewife hatch did not show until late summer and they grew through the larval stage pretty quickly. I think DEC gets this "shaker" data from the jack survey.