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Rolmops, The accident in the gulf was caused by negligence. They finished pouring their concrete (underwater) 20 hours before the opened the head. It didn’t hold when the accident happened above water. (concrete on land actually takes 28 days to set up properly) Their management & owners were greedy & wanted to get it on-line quick. BP has admitted that they will pay for it and aren’t even worried about the finances. Electric companies are also greedy & negligent in many ways. Look at how electric poles and lines crisscross the state with no rhyme or reason. Look at how both sides of the streets have poles & lines. Look at how many are leaning over & how many are covered with brush/trees. Look at your electric bill & compare your electric delivery charge vs the actual cost of electricity. That money is going into new lines, not cleaning up the old ones. They abandon the old lines & put up new ones. They even argue with the telephone company over who owns the poles & who has to clear the trees around them. (Even though so many people have cell phones) Look at Russell Station. Just before RG&E shut it down, they said it would take $500M to make it efficient. NYPA is just after money (tax credits) & want it before anyone wises up. They want $3B for new power generation that would almost equal Russell. Russell is owned by Iberdrola. (along with RG&E and NYSEG) NYPA is NOT a state agency. They are an independent electric company that owns generation plants towards the East. What are they doing in Iberdrola territory? The strategy is obvious: NYPA pushing it might be more palatable to US citizens because its name sounds like a NYS agency whereas Iberdrola sounds like a foreign owned company. Wind proponents say they hate coal and tout what Europe & Germany are doing. I saw a program the other night about the world’s largest machines. The 3 largest machines in the world are in Germany and are used to dig, mine & transport coal to a huge coal burning electric generating facility on the site. That facility is extremely efficient, extremely environmentally friendly and that single plant supplies 30% of Germany’s electric needs. NYPA wants to put turbines in the lake and doesn’t care about the environment, the citizens or anything else. They don’t care that turbines aren’t nearly as efficient as other sources and that they take up much more space. They are a “FOR PROFIT†company that’s looking for a buck regardless of the consequences for you or me. They are trying to ride the politically correct “green wave†for as much as they can get. IN NYS, if you want to put up a building, you have to submit soil tests & if polluted or near a wetland, you have to remediate it first. The Rochester Embayment is a USEPA Area of Concern. It’s a biggie. They want to ignore that because there currently aren’t any laws about digging up sediments or spreading pollution from the seabed. They need to be told NO TURBINES out there by the people. They won’t go out of business; they’ll be forced to develop a “for real efficient†method to generate electricity. If there really was an electric shortage they’d change their policy of letting the big demand users pay less for power than the average person who conserves it. I don't mean to beat up on you, but there's much much more to it than just us silly old fishermen having a place to fish. Tom B. (LongLine)
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They let water out all year long. Problem is they make their deision over a month + 1/2 in advance but no one can tell what the weather is going to be like more than a couple days in advance. (They don't believe in the Farmers almanac.) What they did this year was continue to let it out thinking we were going to get more snow & ice, but that just didn't happen this year. Tom B. (LongLine)
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About the weekend forecast and storms in spring.
LongLine replied to rolmops's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Waves mix the water like this: (waves moving to left) Sometimes there's a 3rd level that spins the same way as the top level. The steeper the waves, the more turbulent the top layer. The big problem with 4 ft'rs out there is that there are always a few 6 ft'rs mixed in. That's why 3 is about my limit. High winds are great for turbines. At approx 40 mph, they have to shut them down or they'll generate too much for the grid and transmission lines to handle. Tom B. (LongLine) -
Orvis gear/ waders etc..
LongLine replied to Landshark's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
Ray - You saying "it's about time he became a real fisherman?" Tom B. (LongLine) -
PB Brown
LongLine replied to Mike P's topic in Ontario, CA Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (North Shore)
Welcome to the board Mike. Nice looking fish. Tom B. (LongLine) -
Russell 5-1-10
LongLine replied to LongLine's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Thanx Rick - My knees shaking just happens to be in sync with the fish. Tom B. (LongLine) -
The Jones Act has some very interesting "verbage" involved with construction/transport & registry etc in US waters. Should also be interesting to see how NYPA wiggles their way thru the courts, etc, to get around it. Tom B. (LongLine)
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It doesn't make much difference to actual placement cost if turbines are installed in 150 FOW or 145 FOW. The lake level normally changes up to a couple feet from late winter to mid fall anyways. Low water would hurt turbine construction as the ships they need to handle the parts are huge and draft a lot of water. (i.e where they going to dock them?) Genny was dredged last year but is only about 17.5 ft deep. Current out flow is at 231K Cuft/sec. Max that can be let out is 330K Cuft/sec. We obviously want high water, shore owners want low water, Shipping wants high water (but don't flood us), Hydro-electric wants constant water flow. Outflow historical average has been 240K CuFt/sec. Historical average flow in the Niagara has been 205/210 Cuft/sec. (I don’t know what it is today) The Control board does control the level under direction from the International Joint Commission (IJC) which was set up by the US-Canadian treaty. It is overseen and monitored by the US Army Corps of Engineers. We could argue how successful the Corps of Engineers has been - remember the dikes around New Orleans; Invasives via the St Lawrence; Asian Carp barrier on the Sanitary Canal; dams across the country now being torn down; boulders in the Genny....(I'm glad they weren't involved with space flight) Pray for a couple good rainfalls or we won't be launching come Sept/Oct. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Russell 5-1-10
LongLine replied to LongLine's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Tim - That's what I was thinking but it's right on the borderline. 1 Lb lighter I'd have said yes, 1 Lb heavier & I'd have said no. Was a nice clean fish regardless. Tom B. (LongLine) -
Russell 5-1-10
LongLine replied to LongLine's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Thanx guys. As far as rigg'rs go - Don't leave home without them. Not too many boats out there this morning. Maybe 2 dozen. Most went east or hung out at the mouth. A few went west but I dont think anyone came with 1/4 mile of me. Didn't see much on the screen. Bait shallow was scattered. Good Luck, Tom B. (LongLine) -
Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name: LongLine Looks like we’re off to a super season. Launched early again, flying solo. Headed for the ponds. Good cloud cover, no wind. Worked the 20-35 FOW range over pretty good. Ran into this chunky little guy on the rigg’r at 8 over 25. DW SS NBK back 75 ft. After he was revived, lure retied and about ready to reattach it, the glow Clown NK on the other rigg’r fires. Heh, heh, heh…. 1st salmon of the season. 16 Lbs, 14 over 32 FOW, 20 ft back. He fought his heart out & it took a solid 5 minutes to revive him. Surf temp 50-51F. About 8:00, the sky cleared, saw some birds out deep so headed out. Scum line and blue water at about 60/65 FOW. Saw only a couple small pods of bait and only a couple marks 10 ft off bottom in 70 FOW but no takers. Off at 10:30 with the start of a sunburn. Luck to all, Tom B. (LongLine) p.s. King
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JB Thanx - This should be interesting as it's about down currents, not just surface. Tom B. (LongLine)
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This should be interesting. The Canadians are going to put monitors in the lake from Coburg to Point Breeze to monitor lake currents: http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/Arti ... ?e=2557982 Hope they publish their results in my lifetime. Tom B. (LongLine)
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I doubt that Bob. Watch out for troopers & "Local Smokey's". Counties get the fine but state gets the surcharge, which is just as much as the fine. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Buoy is now redeployed: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=45012 Tom B. (LongLine)
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The sporting laws of NYS are set as maximums. If it says you can use a high powered rifle to hunt deer then you can legally use "up to" that high powered rifle. i.e you could use a lower powered rifle also. The laws says you can use to two lines per angler. It doesn't mean you have to use two lines. The same applies to the 3 rod rule. As Jeb found out that charter was comfortable with 6 rods so he'll probably never use 3 rods per client. The creel limit is 3. You can quit after one or two if you want. How many quit after 0? How many devoted fishermen move to another port after they get skunked in one port? (a lot) Helping others is what it's all about. Us regulars will make return trips regardless because we've caught some fish. Others probably won't return due to lack of sucess out there. Our fishermen numbers have gone down. If we can get "others" to make return trips, then the overall fishery will benefit. Tom B. (LongLine)
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No state is doing more than Michigan to protect the Great Lakes fishery. Look what they're going through with the asian carp. BTW - They had such great success with the 3 rod rule, they expanded it to all waters of their state. We should police ourselves - But police to within the law, not to what your fantasies are. After all, if you want to hunt deer with a butter knife, go ahead, if it's legal. Tom B. (LongLine)
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If we end up with them in the Rochester Embayment, It'll mess up a lot more. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Welcome to the site Ryan. There's a few dedicated "paddlers" here. The rest of us only paddle when our motors die. (Just playing with that last statement) Tom B. (LongLine)
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Just love it that they show a pirrahna on their poster. One other fact that PETA's overlook is that fish are cannabals. i.e. if you catch & eat one, you probably saved it's entire family of a couple thousand. Tom B. (LongLine)
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Looking good. A soloist came in 2nd? Soloists not allowed here. Tom B. (LongLine)
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the genny 4/24
LongLine replied to tree top flyer's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Hope the charter was C&R. Love that combat stuff...that's why I'm out'ta there. Nice fish tho, lot of color on that side? Tom B. (LongLine) -
Definitely keep your stuff on the bottom. You should be finding them tight to shore early, then they move out a little. Tom B. (LongLine)

