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  1. I realize that. However, what happens if in freshwater for a few months then get "hit" with a slug of salt? This appears to be a recent thing & didn't happen last year which was a much milder winter. Did the fishermen become a bunch of "thugs" all of a sudden?
  2. Food for thought: Given the high snowfall, cold temperatures and then more snow...Have the towns/residents around the SR been using more road salt this year? Is the SR tested for salinity? DEC has been advocating less road salt usage for a couple years. Why? The runoff is detrimental to freshwater fish. They're more stressed when salinity changes. If already stressed, chances of survival is reduced no matter who catches them. Additionally, studies have shown that gill lice require some salinity to survive.
  3. I followed the links. Please point out the section in the proposal that makes hunting, fishing or trapping an illegal activity. I don't see it. I read their proposal to the PEACE ACT and see a few places where they say, "Except as otherwise authorized by law" and even a statement on pg 8 that says "does not apply to '(g) lawful fishing, hunting and trapping activities'" I doubt the reporter/journalists or their producers even read it but there's probably money behind their views.
  4. DEC wants input. DEC Proposes Changes to Coolwater Sportfish Regulations Public Input Sought Through April 13, 2026 New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Amanda Lefton today announced the release of proposed changes to coolwater sportfish regulations that will help protect fish while spawning, increase the reproductive capacity of walleye in Lake Ontario’s eastern basin, and eliminate unnecessary special regulations. “The proposed regulation changes for walleye, pike, pickerel, and tiger musky reflect DEC’s commitment to adaptively manage New York’s fisheries resources and to simplify regulations wherever possible,” said Commissioner Lefton. “We encourage the public to review the proposal and provide feedback.” Highlights of the proposed regulations include: Changing the closing date for walleye, northern pike, chain pickerel, and tiger musky from March 15 to March 1 for both statewide and special regulations; Changing the start date of fishing-prohibited regulations to protect spawning walleye on sections of select streams from March 16 to March 2; Eliminating unnecessary special harvest regulations for walleye in 33 waters; and Changing the size limit and daily creel limit for walleye in Jefferson County waters of Lake Ontario to two fish per day with no more than one longer than 24 inches. The proposed regulations are responsive to fisheries managers’ and anglers’ concerns that the current fishing season closing date may not adequately protect spawning walleye and northern pike into the future, as a warming climate changes water temperatures and shifts spawning times. Establishing an earlier fishing season closure will help ensure that spawning aggregations of these species are protected. There are also several walleye waters currently managed under special harvest regulation (18-inch minimum size limit, three-per-day possession limit) to help establish, restore, or improve walleye fisheries. A subset of those waters does not meet that objective and the draft regulations propose to convert back to statewide regulations and a 15-inch minimum size, five-per-day possession limit. In addition, the walleye fishery in Lake Ontario’s eastern basin (Jefferson County) has declined, and DEC is proposing a more protective harvest regulation intended to increase spawning stock biomass and increase the capacity for natural reproduction. The full text and a summary of the proposed regulatory changes are available on DEC’s website. DEC is interested in anglers’ viewpoints and encourages public feedback on these proposals. Comments will be accepted through April 13, 2026, and should be emailed to [email protected] with the subject line “Coolwater Sportfish Regulations,” or sent by standard mail to: Inland Fisheries Section NYSDEC 625 Broadway Albany, NY 12233-4753
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  5. https://apnews.com/article/trump-climate-change-epa-clean-air-act-c149d5ea6ec71c862e6c4b578adf92cd Does this mean potential for more or larger harmful algae blooms? https://www.epa.gov/habs/climate-change-and-freshwater-harmful-algal-blooms
  6. The score: 1/4 pounder 1 - (food Gator likes) Whopper 3 - (food LL likes, fish LL catches, fish stories by Gill-T) (joke...just kidding...hah, ha, ha) The CRAAP test is a good one. (Can you believe this thread has 17,600 views?) COME ON SPRING!
  7. I didn't prove your point, you proved my point! (ha, ha, ha...just kidding... just joking) I believe being skeptical is good. Corroborations, sources and questions are very important. Truth can be a very subjective term depending on how or to what it is applied. Two witnesses to an event often report differing accounts of that event so one should ask what a 3rd, 4th and even 5th witness say occurred. Back to the topic of WH decisions but along in the same line: WH house announces beef imports from Argentina to drive ground beef price down: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-ensures-affordable-beef-for-the-american-consumer/ Cool! Burger prices are going down! What the beef farmers say? https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu/2026/02/u-s-to-quadruple-beef-imports-from-argentina/ Oops, disease may be a problem? Poor quality? Additional inspections required? What did a news analyst say? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-beef-trade-argentina-executive-order/ Won't hurt but only a drop in the bucket so prices won't go down. COME ON SPRING!
  8. Mr. W: Someone once told me that "I can read it for you, but I can't understand it for you." Another told me that the problem with the written word is that with some you can't really decern emotion behind it. Quite a few so called "conservatives" and quite a few so called "liberals" constructively contribute to this site regularly. Our common ground is love of the outdoors. We try very hard to defend positions in a constructive manner. (most of the time) Some replies are obviously humorous, and some exhibit a very "dry" humor. Some have the world's worst grammar, and some are don't know what a paragraph is. Some quote sources and others are personal opinions. Destructive or personal attacks are uncalled for. HB - The "Science" events you refer to were/are all expressed as probabilities. High probability doesn't mean it will always happen just as low probabilities doesn't mean it will never happen. Rolmops' point is that they didn't consider calculation by weight. They also didn't consider whether the material was wetted with a chemical nor crushed flat. Previous alewife surveys assumed alewives were equally distributed throughout the lake. Recent surveys proved that assumption wrong. Perhaps in a few years another factor will be included in the survey. The problem with being human is being human. I wish I could think of everything beforehand and not as an afterthought, but then I wouldn't be human.
  9. Well not from WH but from Albany that might help a little for electric bills:: https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/new-york-mulls-moratorium-on-new-data-centers/ State proposal for a 3 yr moratorium on new data centers in NY (these support AI, require a lot of electricity and new infrastructure that we'd have to pay for.)
  10. I really tried to get back to WH outdoor decisions...oh well. Anyways: I'm more of a Whopper fan. Both for food and catching them while fishing. I'm not a fan of windmills or solar panels especially if I have to pay for installation and /or if people use that space for outdoor activities. (hunting, fishing, observing nature, etc.) If a private company wants to put panels on the top of their warehouse/factory/building and sell excess to the power company, then fine. I would not be a fan of building a nuclear power plant at Sandy Creek. Statistics don't lie. Mathematical equations are firmly set. The issue is whether true statistical methodology was applied. Look at what happened to the reported alewife numbers after more random places were included and encompassing both sides of the lake. Yes, there was a milder winter BUT previous years did not count what was in Canadian water or in between the rigid sample paths. The same thing applies to national political polls...Who was asked? How were the questions really worded? (Were questions biased?) Were results significant? What assumptions were made? etc. COME ON SPRING!
  11. Here's another environmental decision: Dicamba has been approved in herbicides. https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/epa-reapproves-dangerous-drift-prone-pesticide-dicamba-2026-02-06/ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/climate/epa-dicamba-drifting-herbicide-approval.html Can't help wondering how much of it will end up in US waters.
  12. Well, back to environmental decisions made by Washington: DJT is opening the only area on the Atlantic seaboard protected from commercial fishing for commercial fishing. The NE Canyons & Seamount Marine National Monument. Guessing nobody ever explained the difference between Trollers and Trawlers to him. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-makes-major-change-to-fishing-11482477 He previously opened a protected area out west. I.E. Pacific Islands Marine National Monument.
  13. Gill-T: Depends on how many sandwiches you eat (or burgers) and the time of year launches are open. Brian: Here's the real graph from your "Fred site." https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000702111 2010 to 2020 hovers around $1.40/Lb. In 2020 it drastically begins increase and then begins going down near '24. It went up to $2.00 or 43%. Minimum wage did not increase 43% in that period especially in states like Texas, where the min wage has been (and still is plus 20 other states) at $7.25/hr. 2020 began the national "remote learning" in schools and "working from home" movements. These people ate at home rather than get lunch at school or in the cafeteria and bought more bread for sandwiches. (Demand went up.). That was what caused the drastic jump in bread price. Those years also began the push to get away from people and go outside for fresh air. We both know sales of fishing gear was pretty good '21-23. (I couldn't keep sinkers on the shelf.) The pandemic is over and Fred's graph says the price is going down. Well yeah, demand is going back down as not as many sandwiches are being made at home. Even though the minimum wage was increased again, twice! Reduced demand caused that the major bread bakery in Olean NY to close. As far as pay for cooking burgers go, look at the publicity about school loans and the push to get kids into the trades rather than college in the last 5 years. Why would a kid want to earn minimum wage when he could become a tradesman apprentice for 3 times the pay? Kids would totally avoid going into horrendous debt. Look at the age of the burger people and clerks at retail/convenience stores. Obviously younger worker supply is down, and demand is high for any worker hence higher wages are offered. As to the stock market: They are "profit takers", not "product makers." Just wait for annual reports to see the profits of some of these companies. If the economy is "booming" because the Stk Mkt is high, then why complain about the price of a burger? WH says the economy is "booming" so are these complainers balking at the price of a burger or balking at the wages they have to pay employees? Or are they subconsciously admitting that the WH is lying? As a side note: I just used a leaf blower to clean off truck and driveway this morning. One battery in my 40v blower saved a lot of work
  14. So I found that complete "un-scrunched" graph on FRED's website. The notes say it's taken from "75 selected cites." (US) It shows the high was $2 per pound. Also shows a drop from $2.00 to $1.80/lb beginning 2024 through 2025. The complete (not rescaled) graph shows the price of bread pretty constant from 2009 through 2020. A big jump occurs starting in 2020 which coincides with people eating more at home due to the pandemic. (I.E. demand up means prices up) If you look up US minimum wage history: The Federal minimum wage was increased in 2009 to $7.25 and there are 21 states that still use that as their minimum. (Including Texas, Georgia, etc.) FRED's site also has minimum wage histories for all the states. Adding up the numbers calculates an average US minimum wage for 2024 to be $11.40/hr. In 2025 it's $11.69/hr and in 2026 it's $12.00/hr. So US minimum wage increased and price of bread went down so obviously min wage is not the driver. It'd go down a lot more if it wasn't for tariffs. Some say that die-hard trumpers are sheep and that the Bible tells where the sheep ended up, but I won't.
  15. Brian: That graph is in percentages. Here's the history of minimum wage in NYS from: https://dol.ny.gov/history-minimum-wage-new-york-state (Note: no increase in 2023) If you do the calculations for NY percent yearly wage increases, you get this: These percentages do not coincide with the bread percentage graph whatsoever. If Min wage was the driver, then the bread cost graph would show a healthy increasing trend and not the ups and downs. According to yearly percentages, the minimum wage is going down. According to real dollars, it's gone up. Would one prefer to have 7% of $100 or 3% of $300?????? This is exactly what the WH does when they claim inflation is going down. They say 2.5% of an obscene price is less than 4% of a less obscene price so inflation must be going down. As to the Super Bowl, let's hope it's a good one. Trump not attending due to health reasons. Boo's would be so deafening he'd have a panic attack.
  16. We were discussing farmers leasing their land for solar panels and not raising crops on prime land in order to make some money. Farmers have also turned to exports to make money. Wheat is a major export to Mexico. Wheat is the major component of breads. It was offered that the $15 per hour labor rate was a driver in the cost of that bread. It was pointed out that those breads (and I'm finding out many others) were baked in Mexico where the $15/hr doesn't apply. The Mexican gov't is considering (per Reuters) raising their minimum to MXN $315 per day. MXN$ is pesos and converts to US$17.27 per day. The NY labor rate only applies to New Yorkers. As this thread is about decisions made in Washington DC (USA), I offer that the driver of the price increase is Donny's 25% tariff on imported Mexican bread that went into effect in March 2025. That tariff added over $0.80 to the cost of that bread. Grupo Bimbo (the bread maker) has filed a lawsuit against Trump in December, but that tariff is still in effect. As to gas, Gas Buddy says there are 10 stations in Monroe County that are under $2.75/gal for reg gas. Additionally, as I understand it, the gas stove ban (etc.) is only for new construction.
  17. Sheridan also does Tulsa King and Mayor of Kingston. Both about balancing criminals, corruption, bribery, drugs and the struggle to control it all for their own and their families' benefit. Pretty good storylines.
  18. Labor cost can play a part, but Sunbeam bread is made in Mexico. Stroehmann's bread which closed its Olean NY plant last October (operated by 80 employees) is owned by Grupo Bimbo Bakeries which is the largest bakery in the world. It's also in located in Mexico...oh well. Landman has a great Hollywood story line. I can't wait to see the annual reports of Exon, BP etc.
  19. I have no problem whatsoever with the farmers getting private lease deals for their land. US farmers have out produced demand in the US for well over 100 years. (Advances in fertilizer, techniques, better equipment, bigger farms, etc.) Back in the 50's the gov't created the "Soil Bank" which paid farmers not to plant crops. Wheat, corn, soybean, rice etc. (I had an aunt that made a lot of money on it.) It was replaced with the "Agricultural Act" which also limited production and provided farm subsidies. . The Gov't moved to put corn ethanol in gasoline. (Which we all love...yeah FN right!) About that time the gov't bought crops to support the SNAP program. (which has just been restricted/cut) Farmers found markets overseas. In 2024, US exported $200 Billion worth of crops. In 2025, the US exported $170 Billion worth. 2026 looks to be lower. The big movers in 2024 were soybeans to China, Wheat and corn to Canada & Mexico. Rice to South America. In 2024, the gov't gave $12 Billion to US farmers in subsidies. Right now, thousands of tons of rice are rotting in silos on the Louisiana Delta because South America has found other sources. China is making deals with Canada for soybeans. US exports are frowned upon overseas due to current trade/tariff policies. This morning, I paid $3.49 for a loaf of bread. I guess farmers have to get as much as they can where they can. (I'm not really happy about that bread though.) As to electricity, many are unaware that the counties on the east end and south shore of the lake are using mostly electricity produced in Canada. (Of which they've threatened an excise tax on due to trade policies) I'm all in favor of Nuclear. A problem being that it requires a lot of water. I guess if they wanted to privately build one of those plants at Sandy Creek, I wouldn't object. (I don't fish the nearshore there) It doesn't bother me if a farmer gets a private lease for a windfarm...just don't put that F/N thing in the lake!
  20. Great job! Kids will remember that for the rest of their lives.
  21. The recent high wind and large wave storm will affect the offshore water and the nearshore water differently. Hydrologically, large turbulent waves introduce more dissolved oxygen into the water. However, theory holds in the open water that water is only affected to a depth of 1/2 of the crest to crest distance of the waves. I.e. if there is 50 feet between crests then only the top 25 feet of water will be affected by waves & wind. When those large waves break in the nearshore area, all hell breaks loose. I.E. major erosion, rocks are moved, shoreline damage, vegetation uprooted, etc. Shoreline ice formations can somewhat protect from wave action but if broken up, cause more damage. A seiche will form where the strong wind pushes water east. (Cape Vincent water gage depth increased 18 inches on Monday and the water level on the west end dropped.) Water seeks its own level therefore water on the bottom is pushed back west to level things out. This results in water sloshing back and forth and may last a few days. Things to remember are that this was an early winter storm and Ontario is a big deep body of water. I doubt anyone is out there fishing now. Disturbed water will stabilize in a few days and have no effect on this upcoming seasons fishing. However, another storm like this in mid-late March will be a different story.
  22. I found AI to be wrong about a few things. I'm not aware of Kings traveling too far up the St Lawrence but it's possible as Atlantics have been accused of doing it. As to the Atlantic Ocean, Kings have been caught in the southern half of Argentina but I highly doubt any have come up to the Northern hemisphere. Atlantic Ocean too different than Pacific. I.E. Temp, salinity, current etc in North not hospitable for Kings.
  23. Try this one. (hopefully no misspellings)
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