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Chris - Maybe you, me & a bunch of other guys aren't "reliable." Don't you love how the weathermen can mess things up? Guess they don't realize that most fishermen especially rec's carry cameras and most operate with active GPS. All we'd have to do is take a pix of the spout with part of the boat in the pix, take a pix of the shore, report coordinates & send them in so they could confirm on their radar/dopler. (Then get the he[[ out of there) Fishermen have been telling the weather just by the hats they wear a lot longer than weathermen have been around. When water drips off the brim - you know it's raining; when it blows off your head - you know it's windy; when icicles form on it - it's freeking cold! But hey...we're not reliable..... Tom B. (LongLine)

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WTG Toal Chaos. Glad you made it back ok choo. Hope you can get it fixed. Tom B. (LongLine)

'94, 95 & 96 had the lowest King stocking numbers. (Remember 93 was the year that stocking numbers were greatly reduced) Those 3 years they only put in like 1mil to 1.3mil. Also Nat repro hadn't kicked in enough to be noticed. (Till '99) Fish from 95-96 would be the big ones caught in '99 In 1999 the yearling alewife numbers were extremely high during April-May. The yearling alewife numbers since have been 20% of that or less. Basically, during the "get fat" portion of their life cycle, there was more prey available. Another way to look at it is to figure the ratios: in very rough numbers - the year that we had the tremendous kings, each king had 10,000 alewives to chose from. In the last 10 yrs or so King stocking targets roughly 1.7 mil & Nat repro has kicked in. Alewive population is down from those years. It's more like each king now has 500-1000 alewives to chose from. Additionally, the invasives (mussels & gobies) have shifted the alewive population out over deeper water. The kings start sniffing around the rivers in mid-late Aug. Mid July the alewives go back out. The kings used to be able to eat pretty good around the mouths of the rivers. Now, there's not much of their favorite food available to munch on while they're sniffing. Tom B. (LongLine)

Try this place. He's in N Tonawanda http://laingsoutboards.com/ Tom B. (LongLine)

Tim - Browns are typically the fat ones but the cohos I've seen this year have almost put them to shame. I'm wondering if they've exchanged diets. Tom B. (LongLine)

Fishing Report LongLine Guess what time I launched… Clear overhead. Big bright Blue moon high in the sky. Very slight south wind. Headed out & to the left. 73.5F on the surface. Put in around 120 FOW and worked out to 230FOW or so. Very busy screen between 190 & 220 between 80 & 110 down. Managed to lose the first 4. Two were on for ten minutes & had to be Lakers. 2 were on for 10 seconds, max. Glad I got up so early…. Finally got the act together around 10:00. Little King down 120 over 200. Wonderbread on the rigger. Then a chunker, same depth same lure. Both short leads; 3 mph down speed heading south. 54F down 105. Very thin line but I guess from here on out, temp doesn't mean all that much. Flotilla of larger boats working a little eastward, more off the river & a little shallower. Maybe 8-10. Pulled them up around 11:30 & scooted around to burn some gas. 6 jackas…er...fellow boaters trying to launch. Man that water’s low. Couple guys in a Lund pulled out right behind me. Guess they had a pretty good day to the east. About 20 trailers in the lot. Going to play with the carburetors one more time tomorrow. Luck to all, Tom B. (LongLine)

For the do-it-yourselfer check out this site: http://alantani.com/ It's loaded with info on all kinds of reels. Tutorials are awesome. Tom B. (LongLine)

Yeah, the big one. used to be the county launch but now owned by the City. They're going to go ahead with their plans for condos etc. Originally they were going to put in a new launch just a little south but looks like that's scrapped. Anyone figure out the mayor's email address? Tom B. (LongLine)

What's this BS about closing off the launch at the genny? Anybody have the mayor's email address??? The only one I can find requires me to change a bunch of stuff on my computer. Tom B. (LongLine)

Any one that isn't secured to your cable when on dry land. Over the years: Couple of Roemers, 1 Chamberlain, 2 pinch pad cannons, bunch of Lauricks. oops...only 1 cannon, 2nd broke & I threw it in the trash. I'm not bashing anyone here. I can be a klutz sometimes...funny how I've never dropped a rod overboard...knock on wood. (kicker motor doesn't count as I wasn't holding onto it at the time & besides it was chained.) Tom B. (LongLine)

Welcome to the site Devin. Keep your eyes open & stay safe. Billy V is the guy I'd look up for the Fingers. Tom B. (LongLine)

Definite + on the Black's. Black's are much much harder to drop overboard. Tom B. (LongLine)

I don't know of any place around Rochester. I did however do a search on "used outboard motor parts" and it turned up a whole slew of places that sell just about everything. What kind of motor? Tom B. (LongLine)

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The reading on your rigg'r is important after you catch a fish. Always look at it as your taking the rod out of the holder and befor you crank it up. That way you can get it back to the same place. Tom B. (LongLine)

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WTG Brian! Wow! Tom B. (LongLine)

Every year, off the Genny at least, Early-mid Aug, there's a big band of fish in that 70-80 ft range that will drive you freaking nuts. My advice - go deeper & find something that will bite. But seriously, try stopping & let lures settle, then put it in gear. Another trick with clean spoons - pop your line loose from the rigg'r & let them come up by themselves. Tom B. (LongLine)

Nat Repro has been known about since the mid ninties. It's only recently that formal studies have been undertaken by DEC. Back in early 2000's a prof at E.S.F. (w/colleagues) published a paper saying Nat Repro was highly variable and could vary as low as 10% & up to 85% in lake Ontario. I also have a problem believing the catch is 40% natural. I'd say it's closer to 60% this year & hopefully going to be higher next as the hatchery egg success wasn't very good this year. Tom B. (LongLine)

With the well publized info on natural Kings; some info on natural Atlantics; & a couple of lakers here & there, it's only logical that the others are doing it also, although to what extent, only a few really know. Tom B. (LongLine)

I wouldn't pull anything over 3K Lbs. Aluminum is obviously light. As for the boat, look for a deep vee type hull. Something pretty deep and wide. As you're standing in boat, side of gunnel (side wall) should come up well past your knee. Side wall should be minimum 6" wide to mount rigg'rs on & solid. Look at transome - Does it have room to put a kicker? Look at the room you'll have for fighting a fish - is there a lot of room or are you going to trip over something? Get a survey & insist on a test ride, even if you have to pay for the launch. You might want to offeer to tow it to the launch for the test ride, just to see how it trailers. Tom B. (LongLine)

Heck, I've done that on perfectly calm days. Tom B. (LongLine)

Probably because there was a boom in the wild population. An awful lot of little guys were caught in those years & a lot had adipose fins. Take a real good look at the recent posted photos of 15-25 lb fish. Majority have their fins intact. Tom B. (LongLine)

Orange - Go to this site. http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glc ... pe=N&hr=00 Click on the various hour boxes then play back with you browser and you can see what the surface has been doing. (note; scroll down to see what's happening on the bottom.) Also go to the "forecast" pulldown menu and find Lake Ontario. Do the same thing there with surface temps. You can also go to the 'nowcast" pulldown, find lake ontario & play with the surface transects. Put them all together in your mind and you'll get a pretty good indication of what's going on out there. (Note the transects start in about a 100FOW or so) Tom B. (LongLine)