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Who? There is only about a dozen of us left and none of them are on the board. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

The truth of the matter is, we do not have any representation from Sandy on the stakeholders board. The little guy never gets a voice. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

The loss of the domestics is only going to hurt Tribs like Sandy. Sandy used to get great fall runs of domestics. High water years, most went way up but dryer years the lower sections had awesome numbers. What was their reasoning behind cutting the domestics. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

The browns are there. We fished them in early July and last week and caught browns of all sizes. The only exception seems to be browns from 5-9lbs. Lots of stockers up to 4 lbs and lots over 9lbs. Brown fishing is best in the summer after stable weather. We haven’t had that much this summer. When we have, the brown fishing has been good. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

They have no clue about which ports have better survival to adult hood. Most don’t imprint no matter where they are reared and end up back at the salmon river. The sandy pen project had the best survival (least mortality rate) and best weight even though most years our fish were held the shortest duration due to water temps. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I get that Dave. They told Rob and I they it’s survival in numbers. More stocked at one site means more survival. So they take our program out of the equation (for better survival) and put our fish in Black River bay to run the gauntlet of some of the biggest populations of smallmouth, perch, lake trout and walleye. It’s complete BS. If it was truly about survival, the kings wouldn’t be put in a project with only 50,000 stocked. Yes the Black River more than likely has more fishing pressure than Sandy but they don’t have much of a long fishery until mid August. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Then why the small project on Black River? Only 50,000 kings. It doesn't align with their stocking in numbers for better survival theory. They could have kept Sandy (one of the most successful pen projects on the entire lake) and left out Black River. It doesn't make sense to cut a successful project with a TON of volunteers to start in an unproven project. If it was truly about survival rates, Sandy would still be in the program. Year after year we had the best survival rate and growth rates of all the projects.

The Sandy fish were taken away to stock in numbers at the bigger ports yet, they are starting a pen project in Black River bay of only 50,000 kings. They took a sucessful project away from Sandy and put it in a site that hasn't had a pen project before. They also took more stocking away from the West end fishermen.

The kings are managed for the lake not the tribs. That is one reason why Sandy doesn't have kings. We have lost a marina and the majority of the boats that used to fish out of Sandy. As for stakeholders, there is a board set up of Captains, and guides that have input on the decisions / issues. As far as I know, there isn't any representation from any recreational anglers trib or boat on the board which IMO is a problem. They decided to put more kings in certain pen projects for survival in numbers. The sandy project was one of the most successful projects year after year. We worked with SUNY Brockport and they gave us and the DEC valuable information they compiled from the research they did on our project.

Awesome stuff Billy!

I run the same set up Rick talked about. I ran the OR13's and had trouble with them tangling when the rod was set down. The release would twist around the mainline. I have tired Troubles fixed cheaters and they work great also.

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Yes I do!

I am in search of a set of S&S cowbells. They were made about 15-20 years ago. They do not need to be in good shape. Let me know and I can pay or trade Gambler Rigs for them. I am in need of only one set.

Anyone have a set of S&S cowbells they would be willing to part with? They can be beat up. I can repair them. Let me know! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thank you! I try to improve my product even more year after year. I have something in the works for this winter to improve durability of the skirts! Stay tuned!

I 100% agree with wrinklestar. Big game is cheaper than replacing the tackle you will lose with bad line.

Gambler Rigs work behind Cowbells, dodgers, flashers, grease / death traps, or clean. I find cowbells the most efficient way to catch lakers with Gambler Rigs. The reason is speed. Cowbells limit your speed to 1.8 or less. Lakers like slow/lazy presentations. Active lakers suspended in the water column will hit them just fine behind dodgers or flashers.