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This topic has been covered a bunch here. The biggest issue is the small diameter of the braid works against you when the Fleas are blooming in the summer. Most guys seem to use 30 lb big game mono to get around the flea problem, with a leader of something smaller.

FishTales on the Iphone stores lot of info and will grab GPS coordinates for catch.

If charters out, I think LOTSA offers a class during the Niagara Falls outdoor show in the winter. Won't help now and hands on water schooling is always best, but it is a option.

When everyone talks about going down to a flouro leader are you using pure flouro leader materiel with the small amount and higher pricier or are you talking about the flouro line in filler pack size?

Sounds like the start of a country song for fisherman.

Long pond by the inlet bridge was always good for me.

We all need to face reality here that poaching on this lake occurs and is a major detriment to our future fishing. This discussion was about how to curb that illegal poaching and get it under control. You may not agree with the ideas to do that, and that is fine, but putting your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't happen is kind of crazy. Nor does taking arguments presented to extremes to make them sound unreasonable or attacking methods you choose not to use but are legal. Heck we got enough illegal stuff sliding by that we don't need to focus on chasing after the good guys too. Boat guys and trib guys really want the same thing, a healthy population of fish to chase after whenever we get out on the water, poaching hurts that so let's creatively and constructively look for solutions we both can live with to do that.

Not just officers we need to get convictions up. I believe Rochester legal district either had none or one convictions from all tickets written last year. I would be one discouraged conservation officer if I knew that.

While I believe the overall lake is only 4"-6" inches down it must have a pronounced effect in some areas. When I was on the Summerville Pier days back I know the difference in water height that it came up to on the pier from early April last year and mid March this year would be measure in feet and not inches. Like you say I am not overly concerned yet and I know there is still snow and ice out there, but I notice the effects of this lower water here being more dramatic that whats reported.

Law from the books, only eggs of a legal collected fish kept intact do not count towards quart. Any eggs outside of a fish count on that quart limit. use and possession of fih eggs • No person shall possess more than one quart total of fih eggs from trout, lake trout or Atlantic salmon while on the waters of the state or the shores thereof. Fish eggs which are still inside the carcass of an intact, legally caught and possessed fih shall not be counted towards the one quart total

JakeyBaby he is saying if a female trout has loose eggs you squeeze the fish to have the trout release the eggs without having to kill the fish to get them. Then release the milked fish live.

Theoretically it can be illegal based on egg possession laws. Your only allowed to have so many eggs on your person stream-side, one quart max I believe. Again our problem on the streams stems from a enforcement/conviction problem, not having enough laws on the books problem. Adding one more doesn't help if nothing comes of someone breaking it and knowing even if they get caught nothing will happen or the penalty is not even enough to be an annoyance.

While I appreciate what you want to accomplish, I mean who doesn't want better fishing, I have issue of putting another regulation that will hamper honest fisherman and will be ignored by the dishonest. Honest fisherman are getting to the point to to stay within the rules they need to take a lawyer on the stream with them to interpret their actions and bait/lure choice against the general regulations, special area regulations and time sensitive regulations. While the dishonest ones have no problem breaking multiple and plain regulations each trip out, I doubt adding another one will make them change their methods, it just makes the good guys struggle to be successful even more. Most of what you are saying is covered with regulations on limits, fish disposal/possession and eggs rules. We have a giant problem on the lake and streams in NY and it's not having good regulations in place, it's enforcement and penalties for breaking those regulations. I truly believe we need to band together and work on getting the creation of a environmental court the the major lakeside fishing communities with people running the court knowledgeable of environmental concerns and harvesting methods to judge written citations in the proper frame of refernce, similar to how some areas have just a traffic court. Having these done on regular criminal dockets where judges don't know or understand why treble hooks with weight around them are bad or them thinking "really I am worried about a guy taking 7 steelhead when I have a rapist and an murder just before this case.". Maybe once convictions rates go up and responsible fines are attached we will slow down the poaching regardless if it is for eggs or meat to take to NYC. If we can't get this then at least lobby the current court system to get knowledge of these crimes and treat them seriously. Adding another law that the resulting ticket is worthless is not going to fix the issues. Again not fighting with the result you want just struggling with the best method to achieve them.

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I went to Sandy too, it is improving as the creeks is opening from lake to the back docks of hatch club. Shouldn't be to long before it gets back to launch and parkway bridge.

I am with you on that. Especially when they open up and tell you all their water issues and the real world impact it has on stocking numbers because of it. Mortality issues of fry because of silt/sand blocking reservoir pipes or even worse entering incubators. Seems to me multiple locations would mean more sources of water, a smaller requirement of water per hatchery and having less impact of water issues and diseases. I get the manpower issues involved in more hatchery but the money involved in this fishery more than justifies it. The guys in the hatchery are doing great with what they have but the one basket thing kind of doesn't hold up on their side, not that I have a problem stocking a smaller percentage straight to lake. It never hurts to have multiple sources.