For those Alpine Lakes Stan you may want to also look at these as they are sized right.
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Looks like it is 2,000 acres. There is a development plan that was completed in October, 2015 and I am not sure why there is concern for the "white deer". As long as the fence stays up they will exist. Probably not enough acreage for Elk.
http://nysparks.com/inside-our-agency/documents/MasterPlans/SampsonStatePark/SampsonStateParkDraftSampsonStateParkMasterPlan.pdf
It is not every day that 10,000 fenced acres becomes available. Perhaps a once in a lifetime opportunity to bring elk into New York and give the region another shot in the arm as a drive-thru state park where visitors can see elk and white deer from their cars and/or viewing areas. People come from all over to see the Pennsylvania herd in September. I will see if I can write some letters ( I have been doing that a lot lately).
I just used the DEC suggestion site for Whitetails to suggest the Sampson Air Force Base be studied as a possible location to start an Elk herd restoration project.
Agreed Les. I PM'd the original poster that if he wanted to stop development the best course of action is to get an independent testing company to check for chemical and nuclear contamination. I would like to see the state purchase the land and open it up to sportsmen as a WMA.
Les, the white gene is present in a lot of animal species. The only reason there are so many whites at the Sampson base is they were protected from hunters and there is a fence. Artificial selection. Brown deer were allowed to be shot and white ones were not.
They stick out like a sore thumb. In the wild they would be the first to be shot, the first to be seen by Coyotes. The reason you find black moths and black squirrels in cities is the exhaust from industry and cars leave a black stain on everything so the black color doesn't stand out to predators and thus are not naturally selected for. If Whitetails lived in the arctic.....the white gene might become dominant similar to Polar Bears and Arctic Fox.
Not good for the species to protect recessive traits. Fun to look at?....sure. Good for the species in the wild?......probably not. Put a population in a zoo or keep them in an enclosure.
Women's shoe collections are stupid. You have to pay to play. You want to play golf once a week?......$50 x 4 rounds/month x 7 months= $1400 per year. Over 10 years that's $14,000. You go to the bar every Friday night and drop $50 all year = $2400 per year= $24,000 over 10 years. Adult soccer league $400 per session x 3 sessions per year= $1200 per year......you get my drift. Any time my wife gives me grief I explain I don't go out to bars anymore, I don't go to the casino, after back surgery I don't ski or play contact sports anymore. Fishing is a stress reliever that keeps me from being an ahole to those around me. In the end if I had to, I could sell my gear and get money in return......try to do that with used shoes!!!
My apologies to the original thread author.......we have gone off-course Captain!
Keep in mind the St. Lawrence River froze over the past two winters so dogs could come over from Quebec. They didn't get the ice breaker up the river until late March or April I believe so dogs starting their mating wander could have come across.
Thanks. I talked to a gentleman at Big Blue. The address you gave is just a PO Box. There is no retail location. Parts can be ordered thru them or via eBay. I am not really seeing much on eBay.
Anyone know if someone scarfed up the remaining Moor Subtroll parts for service? Is the smaller cable that fits into the back of the unit available at other stores such as Radio Shack?
The current system is too confusing. Since the insurance industry wants deer numbers curbed along with farmers, there will be pressure to keep numbers in check. I am not sure if coyotes are factored into their equation at the DEC, but my experience around Western NY and Southern Tier is Coyote populations are expanding. MAKE IT EASY......every big game license comes with a doe tag good for ANY location. For those units that need additional doe take ie. around suburbs then a hunter can apply to a specific unit for a second tag. I have noticed that the state land in Allegany County there is an extreme imbalanced buck to doe ratio. Reason being ... getting a doe permit is difficult for some reason in those units. We see tons of does down there......can't shoot them. Meat hunters who could be spending their opening day gutting and dragging out their doe, are staying in the woods longer and have to hold out for a buck. Too many bucks getting shot and at a young age.