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Copper and dipsys are set slightly different when putting out more than one per side. You want the inside dipsy deeper and shorter length back (use a mag). The outside dipsy you want further back but higher in the column (use a standard dipsy). With Copper you again want the deep line on the inside which means the longer copper segment. The shorter coppers go to the outside. Set this way when the outside line gets bit the fish will slide to inside and be above the inside line avoiding tangles.

Guys just download the dive chart on Bloodruntackle.com. You will find the charts in the blog section of the site. The depths of the dipsys were confirmed by a probe. I have found them accurate. As far as why fish hit a dipsy at 450' out but won't touch it at 350' out has nothing to do with depth achieved as a standard sized dipsy will pretty much stop gaining depth at 300' out. What is probably at play is distance from the boat as it relates to boat noise.

My 2nd cousins are Christmas Tree farmers in Arkport. They have allowed the DEC to release bears on their property for the last decade. Could very well be one of the original plants. Huge bear!

Nick, one of my crew is a veteran also. My guess is there will be many other vets participating on different teams. Looking forward to a great venue!

Too funny. You have been experimenting with tiny spoons for Kings while I have been throwing the biggest spoons I can find at them. 5.25" Northport Nailer super mags and Tomic 6" spoons.

Maybe a mini crash. From Late 80's to early 90's fishing got tougher. Fishermen had to adjust tactics. Now less fish........but better fishermen!

M-80 "bait checks". Evil Eyes. A spoon always at 50' down. People so ga-ga over salmon they died during tournaments on Lake Michigan when small boats would risk going out in 12' seas.

Fished it during the eighties. Water was a completely different color. Inshore it was mostly brown. Lots of bright Rebel Stickbaits, Canadian Wigglers, J-plugs, Northport and Southport Nailer spoons, Alpena Diamonds, Bright colored orange and yellow Dodger and squid or flys. Junk lines were not being used yet. Some early dipsy diver usage. Mostly downriggers were to delivery device.....as many as you can place and run off a transom. Stacking downrigger lines and cheaters got more baits in the water. We used to run four downriggers, each with an additional stacked rod for a 8 rod spread on 19' Chapparal. The fish were big. Fishermen would not blink at the weights on the current LOC board. Bait was everywhere. During the pier season Kings and browns would be crashing bait next to the pier. Pier fishing was shoulder to shoulder where you had to cast perfectly straight out or you caught someones line. The runs were huge by comparison as the number of salmon stocked was double of that today. Snagging was in full force and was a spectacle to watch. Salmon lined the banks.

Lakers 1.7-2 mph would be ideal, Browns 1.7mph along shore in spring to 2-2.25 mph later, Kings 2-2.25 mph typical, Steelhead 2.25-2.8 mph so it kind of depends what I am targeting. A good all around down-speed for me is 2.25 mph on Moor Subtroll. Other factors are the spoons I am running. The thinner the blank.....the slower the optimum working speed.

Bait or thermocline or heavy flea gaggle.

Two thoughts on what may cause this wear. One, after a release when using a flasher. As the diver slides down the line, the rotation of the diver puts the main line in contact with the edge of the diver? Two, in transport bouncing around while coming and going to fishing grounds? Just guesses.