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More excess. Stop all immigration....period. We have 10% unemployment and we keep allowing people to immigrate to our nation. I see these families at a clinic I work at. They all are instantly given medacaid, medicare, food stamps and access to public housing. Why?.......because the idiots in Washington believe the answer to the underfunded social security is add more people to the system to generate more tax revenue. I know..... lets keep adding people until there is no green space anywhere.....pave it all, we need more traffic! Starting salaries for a State Trooper is $70,000. When policemen are getting ready to retire, they jack up their overtime because their pension is based on the final years of earned income. There are too many retired police officers making six figures. Don't get me started on teachers. Teachers' unions are fighting the consolidation into one health insurance which would save millions. Do we really need all the duplication of services? We have State workers, county workers, town workers, village workers and all the government and taxes that each garner. Seems to me we could consolidate and get rid of all town and village forms of government and roll them into the counties jurisdiction. Lets finally dissolve the thruway authority!!!!!!! Honestly, if they see the slightest bump in the I-90, they tear it up and repave it to keep their jobs going. There are plenty of bridges that need rebuilding with that money. Ok, that is my rant. I still don't feel better however. If the state wants to find their 8 billion dollars I would start with finding solutions to these problems.

Tom, put me down for a #15 torpedo please.

I need 10' of tape. Thanks BW you are like Santa come late.

I will be pulling teeth in Booth #12.

Any luck finding some silver disco tape BW?

mono can crack your plastic planer reel because it absorbs water. I use the SPECTRA line sold by Amish outfitters. You will never loose a board because the line snapped. However, if I have one complaint it would be for while using light stickbaits like rapalas in the spring, the planer releases need some serious jiggling to get them to slide down the line. Some people like to use weedwacker line so releases slide down easier.

I am picturing all the salmon from the west end shooting the gap in August when it is time to go home to the east end.

The niagara river in April......even into early May can give you safe harbor to fish if the lake is too rough. Drifting for Steelhead, Lakers, monster sheephead, maybe an oddball brown or walleye.

You may need three boats if you include the strippers!!!

Kremerica

I own four Cabelas gold series. Best value for your money period. The only caveat are the handles. The handles are soft alloy and will bend with the slightest bump. Since the reels are made by Okuma, you can get nice stainless replacement handles direct from Okuma as replacements for $5.00 per. With the handle upgrade, these reels are still underpriced IMO. When you order them, get the combo deal with their depthmaster dipsy rods....also an excellent product.

Tranny, the gap is in US waters. The Bonnet of course is a ridge that extends to your side of the pond. There is a split in the ridge on US side............like a break in a dam. Go to www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/greatlakes/ for charts.

Thanks for the response borderline. It is difficult to find deep water with current to keep fish active. The gap feature seems like the current would be ripping thru the feature making it a nice late/day spot.

The ice JUST locked up on Erie. This was a LATE freeze, so the ice is not going to be very thick come spring IMO, unless winter holds it's death grip .

Hmmmm......no reponses. The silence must mean I have stumbled onto the secret deep King playground Come on Rochester fishermen spill the beans!

I was looking at bathmetry maps of Lake O, and noticed the scotch bonnet gap feature off Sandy Creek or the Oak? That feature has got to do some funky things to the current in the lake. Is the fishing good around the gap?.......what time of year is good to trailer the boat up there?

My experience bass fishing lately and comparing the fishing to the 90's is ..... 1). The fish are keying on gobies. I used to catch bass on rattlebaits fished at mid-levels, but now forget it....the fish have their nose to the ground. Find the gobies, and you find the bass. I will take a small piece of nightcrawler on a small circle hook and fish right on the bottom to see where the gobies are. If I am not getting bit....I pull the anchor and try again until I hit gobies. Once found, the gobies are "accidentally" sent back down to get eaten.....it does not take long. Note, a small piece of crawler on a hook, looks like a small goby and will get just as many hits. 2). The fish I am catching are all FAT and healthy on both erie and Ontario. 3). The fish are more concentrated.......just like the salmon. Long gone are the day where minnows are swimming everywhere. Find the bait, and you find the fish. The japanese gentleman who won the Erie Bassmasters a year ago was using his depth finder to find bait schools in 50 FOW, and fishing below them with soft plastics. He averaged 5lbs a fish to beat competitors averaging over 4lbs a fish!!!!! Sounds like world class fishing to me. I guess just like salmon fishing has changed to more of a feast or famine situation, new tactics emerge. I think the bass are going to be just fine IMO.

I would be looking at the Saltist. Cabelas has them I believe. I like the concept of a 6:1 gear ratio for quicker line pick-up on downrigger releases.

Some of you may remember Rebel G-finish on their stickbaits in the early 90's. Great pearlescent color, but the paint would come off in chuncks. I used to run the jointed version on a four rigger set with long leads and catch Kings down 50' or so in June. I think the attraction of spoons over sticks is if there is any weeds or fleas on the front of a stickbait.....it ain't going to catch a thing. Also, there is not a whole lot of flash/pull from afar so you have to know you are over fish.

I have noticed on Youtube video clips that the fly leaders on Lake Michigan and west coast fisherman are REALLY long. I was wondering if this is a trend others can verify as effective on Lake O? Some of the west coast meat rigs looked like the leaders were 5-7' behind the flasher!

Depends who you talk to. Mostly, I have heard 20' down per 100' of copper. However, the guys who put out the last edition of the trollers's bible list 400' copper at 48' down, 300' at 42' down I believe. There seems to be a discrepency with figures maybe due to drag/diminished return.

I have patient who worked for the sanitation department in Buffalo. He stated because much of the pipes in the facility on the river is PVC, so they can't treat the sewage in the winter due to freezing condtions. The result is direct dumping into the river during the winter. If you had seen the overhead modis of Lake Erie before the freezing, you could theorize that most municipalities up-lake are doing the same by the turbidity of the water. Toronto and Hamilton are growing by leaps and bounds. Nutrient loading is not a problem going foward in Lake O. I wonder if the Canadians could put up an electric barrier in the Welland canal to prevent the asian carp from entering Lake O?

I was wondering when the discussions where going to start on lake O . You CANNOT paint all lakes with the same brush. Ontario gets influx of alewives from the seaway, and has plenty of green water. The bait along Niagara and Orleans county is there all year. I would be interested to know from some of the older fishermen how the bait is holding up on the east end and north shore. I can attest that the lake has gotten warmer and the bait may be condensing in the cooler waters on the west end where I fish, therefore, giving me a false sense of security on the state of the lake. Maybe some others can chime in about the "state of the lake" in other ports.

I grew up fishing carp lakes in my neighborhood, at the cottage on Lime Lake, and anywhere else walleyes were not available to fish for at night. Corn, doughballs, and like Gambler chum'em with floating bread. Love the "poor-man's salmon". Great fight, and you can fish in a relaxed way, on a dock with a twelve pack in warm weather at night. I was trying to garner interest at the pro/am events to have a carp contest at night. Every event has carp in the marinas,however, nobody took me seriously (there is a suprise!). I would think it would be a blast drinking beer, shooting the ****e, harassing fellow contestants, and running fish up to the weigh station. Anyone interested?????? Anyway, one of my fondest fishing memories was carp fishing. On the dock at Lime Lake with my brother, a can of Delmonte corn and a twelve pack of Old Milwaulkee. I decided on this particular evening to abandon my usual light gear for my heavier downrigger equipment to see what the battle would be like with a tight drag and heavy line. After about the sixth beer or so, I must have forgotten to leave free-spool on my Diawa Sealine reel and while my head was turned talking to my brother, I heard a splash and saw my rod moving out to the middle of the lake! Without hesitation I dove off the end of the dock in the direction of the wake my rod made. At full extension, I had a Matrix (movie) moment where as I was above the water, I could see the moonlight glistening off the chrome reel parts as the rod was traveling about one foot below the surface. I had guestimated the distance to jump perfectly as my outstretched hands land on the rod handle which I grab as I hit the water with beautiful bellyflop. The raucus of the splash, the screaming drag, and my brother's hysterical laughter woke up everyone around us. As the neighbors come pouring out of their cottages to see what the hell all the noise is about I could hear them say "aw its just the Kahler boys fishing again" ......good times

When a fish is on a copper rod, there is never a 90 degree angle with the wire to the rod tip. The bend in the rod produces the wide arc needed to reduce the fatigue on the wire. I think the twilli tip site may be over-hyping the effects of their product on their site. I do think the tips help with SS wire when the rods are not deployed or when you are standing over a fish smiling and the dipsy is just dangling free at the end of the rod bouncing around.