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Don't take this the wrong way but there isn't exactly a shortage of lakers in Cayuga. Personally, my motto is " Eat a laker (or 3) , save a salmon". -Andy

Mark, we fished the Oak on Sat & Sun and we ran only Mag size divers. After back to back Kings on the wire diver rods for a couple hours we pulled them out of the water, switched over to an all spoon program on 4 riggers and moved out to chase Steelies.

Mark, check out Tom's article again. There is no hard & fast answer to this question because there are way too many variables. Just this past weekend we nailed Kings from 47 - 60. Bait, current, upwellings,etc create lots of very cool possibilities for feeding Kings (they are very opportunistic predators). Down temps & down speed are important parts of a puzzle that's constantly changing. Try to enjoy figuring it out and most important ' listen to the fish, they will tell you what you need to know, even if it's " we are in a bad mood & are not interested in anything". -Andy

Can't seem to get my Lowrance Global Map 5200 to 'read' my Navionics 'Fishing chip' SD card which is supposed to be "plug and play". I am not sure which choice on the Global Map's card menu for Navionics card choices correlates with the 'Fishing chip' SD card. The choices that are available don't seem to have numbers or descriptive terms that correlate w/ any thing on the 'fishing chip' (I did try almost all the choices anyway & nothing changed after selecting the choices anyway). If any body has installed the fishing chip in a Lowrance 5200 Global Map GPS I could use some help on this. Thanks -Andy

Gambler & Woody, I posted the recipe for the dish in the picture in Recipe section. viewtopic.php?f=17&t=25597

Thought I posted this b4, but I guess not. This is the recipe for the baked fish dish that is pictured in my post from last weekend. Ok, lets see... I usually drink beer while I'm cooking fish so some of these details might be be a bit hazy... I like to gill & gut my fish asap after catching & then get them in the ice -This is critical. All right, I got my filleting done, remove the 'mud line' and then I remove the pin bones with needle nose pliers. Turn on the oven to preheat @ 350. I pat the fillets free of any residual blood with a dry paper towel and arrange them in one layer in a large baking dish outside down. I slop some Mayo and some sour cream onto the fish and mix it around to lightly cover the fillets. Slice 1 or more Vidalia onions and lay them on the sauce covered fish. Do the same with a pepper or 2 and then w/ a couple tomatoes. I then gently work the veggies down into the sauce a bit. Now grind some coarse black pepper and some coarse sea salt over the dish & sprinkle on some grated parmesan cheese. Bake for about an hour depending on how many and how big the fillets are. Serve with boiled red potatoes (I like to leave the skin on). I place a sheet of foil over the dish while it is baking to keep the veggies from getting dry. Just let the sheet 'sit' there, no need to crimp it over the dish that just makes it difficult to check the dish & make sure it's bubbly, well cooked but not dried out. -Enjoy!

We were in Lockport this weekend visiting family and we crossed the canal several times the last few days and I kept thinking "now, if I had my little boat I would love to work that piece of water". Good for you for getting into those bronzebacks!

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:The Bartlett posse, 'Emily' ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):7/2 & 7/3 Time on Water:6-noon or so Weather/Temp: Wind Speed/Direction:s/w calm & west 10+ Waves: calm & 2-3' on 7/3 Surface Temp: 67-69 Location:Pt Breeze LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: lost count Total Boated:lost count Species Breakdown:4 Browns,7+ lakers,12+Kings,8+Steel Hot Lure: Kings, white sd/white & mirage fly & green dot sd & green /white flies, hot spoons were DW SS gator & diehard also good on browns. Steel liked warrior spoons in red/yellow and the Dw SS 'Nascar', mixed veggies,etc Trolling Speed: Down Speed:1.9-2.3 Boat Depth: 90-300+ Lure Depth: 30'-110' ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS =================== Went out of the County launch @ Pt. Breeze on Sat & Sun and hammered the fish. Was not familiar w/ the area at all and just tried to follow advice from Jason and FX, & Skipper 19-Hey guys, thanks, really appreciate the advice!!! . Took me a while on Sat to get on em but did manage to stay on em. Things were a bit different on Sun but got it together & the action was just as intense. Essentially circled our hot spots both days and then went much further out when the King bite seemed to slow and did battle w/ the Steelies. Tried to release as many as we could but there were still plenty of fish to feed my mother in law's neighbors as well as ours.Way,way too much fun!

Good to hear you folks are back at it in fine fashion! -Andy

I believe that those are very good indeed,only problem is that they cost more than a fish hawk X4 unit, $516 is a lot of money for boards I got a set of the Auroralite original size boards a couple years ago, they were around $275, look at the Amish outfitter HD boards , they were cheaper , I was just leery about having to reinforce my planer arch! Also Ernie L. has plans kicking around out there for his triple boards.

You just need to get some trolling socks to slow you down. Get them from these guys http://www.amishoutfitters.com/ Don't buy the light duty stuff from Cabelas,etc -they will not hold up to trolling.

Nice job & good report!

save the otters for back up & get a pair of these http://www.auroralitestackle.com/planerboards.html Called a bunch of Erie Captains who fish boards everyday and the Auroralites were their top pick. I got the regular doubles and they are awesome for copper & core and flatlines too. I keep my Otters in the little boat and still use em but they just are not half the board these things are.

These are very sea worthy boats. I have one & have fished hard with it on the FLX and Ontario. Excellent hull design that will allow you to handle big water. -Andy

I think you need to get some background on where lure choice starts to come into the picture.As I pointed out in my reply to you spoon post/question, lure choice is not the most important factor to take into account in this kind of fishing. Read this awesome LOU post written by Tom from ATOMIK. viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20724&hilit=attractor%2Ffly

I'm not familiar w/ your location but unless you are in an area like the west end of Ontario where the king fishing has been good you may not have many kings around to catch. This is another popular site to look for specific site info http://spoonpullers.proboards.com/index.cgi? What I can tell you for sure is that in general 2 things are crucial for consistently catching Kings. You need to be trolling in the right temp water and at the right speed down at the bait (not surface speed). To do this you need down temp and down speed - or you need to be in radio contact w/ somebody who has figured out the right depth (temp zone) and speed and you must be going the same direction they are. It's true you need the right stuff in the water but if it's not where the fish are feeding(the right depth/temp zone) and/ or it's not running at the right speed (down speed), you will be really leaning on Lady Lucks arm pretty hard. Check this out viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20724&hilit=attractor%2Ffly & happy fishing!

They might be discontinued. They are not on Z-Man's online store any more, looks like you can get some here http://www.overstockbait.com/Chatter_St ... l-cstk.htm

Good report Ed. You'll like the x-4.

Smokin!

Congrats! Awesome fish!

Hope & prayers that all is going as well as possible! -Andy

That's a big ole' fish Scott! Lakers like that are a treat on a rigger rod. -Andy P.S. don't get a treble through your fingers snatching those lunkers out of the drink- you'll get stuck w/ rhythm duty.

The site is working fine now!

You got 2 things that a dipsy rod needs to be able to do; 1.) It's got to have backbone & strength to handle normal loading from the diver & also be able to work in and then lift a big fish in tight quarters to the net man. 2.) At the same time this rod needs to have fast action so it can respond to the tremendous surge of force that is created by a savage hit and furious head shake following the hit without tearing the hook from the fish's mouth due to the lack of 'give' in either superbraid or wire. I use the Shimano Talora 7' downrigger rod a lot of the time (7' TLAF 70M) . I run only Mag divers (less wire out= less problems all the way around) and this rod will handle a nasty King too, remember the longer the rod the more advantage you give the fish cuz it's like giving the fish a wrench with a longer handle! When I'm running 4 riggers, and or when the diver bite is really hot I will usually use a pair of Talora 8' roller rods (8' TLA80 MRG2). Ask these guy's about these rods, they helped design them.http://www.howiestackle.com/index.php?categoryID=10 I do believe that if you fish out of a wide beamed large boat with an experienced crew then diver rod choice is far less critical than in a small boat w/ a greener crew situation. A hot King on wire shooting thru the maze of rods tightly packed on a little boat can humble you in a hurry and the right rod will really help give you the leverage and maneuverability to 'close the deal'. -Andy

I get the same message, "Suspended".