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Sk8man

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  1. I normally run 3 five leader rigs when by myself and for the past nearly 50 years I have used 4x5 one inch styrofoam blocks to set up my lure presentations ahead of time and usually have about six or seven sets comprising 30-35 lures pre-set up this way in a small duffle bag ready to change out as needed. When I get a fish on I reel up to the first leader and roll it up on a block and drop it on the deck and quickly go to the next one. It is pretty automatic and I don't even have to think about t at this point The rod is often wedged between my knee and the rod holder with the drag set to pay out as necessary or else place the rod back in the holder and do so for all leaders till I get to the fish. I gather them up and then put them back out and throw a rubber band around the empty blocks if windy otherwise just pile there on the deck in three piles of 5. I put a slot in each block to hold the wire clip
  2. I used one back in the mid seventies as described above and although pretty primitive it did at least supply some information despite it being a simple device. It had color bands going from green to red (not specific miles per hr). What it did allow however was being able to return to the approximate speed that a fish was caught (and coordinated with a color on the scale) which was a step up from a total "guesstimate". What I did was to carry small very thin strips of tape with me and when I caught a fish I'd put a strip on the exact place on the color bar relative to my speed (as soon as the fish hit) and then return to that place on the scale so even if I slowed the motor etc. I could return to the same speed (or close to it). Again, better than nothing but not much better I believe I gave mine away in about 1978
  3. I enjoy stirring the pot as much as anyone Does a heavier shark weight attract more fish than a lighter one? When you get down to it none of these things have been scientifically proven by controlled experimental approaches and most for good reason: there are too many uncontrolled variables involved; thus it is basically speculation when either side of the issue is set forth as the answer. So what do we have at the end? "Personal preference" and speculation based on our own experiences and nobody really "knows best"
  4. Rick's advice is well taken as the accuracy of the counter allows you to consistently return to a given depth as it is an "absolute" measure relating to the turns of the wheel. The display on the screen of a depth is more of a relative measure and doesn't allow the same level of consistency because there are many more variables affecting it's accuracy.
  5. 200 ft is pretty standard in usage. Usually folks commonly fish within 150 ft or so with them and for much of the year less than that. The 400 ft rolls are mainly for "curiosity seekers" in my view but it also allows someone some room for "error" if they have a kink or other misfortune requiring shortening the cable.. What would be interesting is when the battery goes dead on the rigger and you are experimenting 350 ft or so
  6. Nice going Justin Another good night activity
  7. WTG Pete. Great introduction to Seth Green rigs and entertaining video (as always). For folks interested. I have a full chapter on Seth Greens with details in the book I'm writing (almost finished) on Trout and Salmon Fishing in the Finger Lakes and Lake Ontario so that will provide some written information as well. Pete's video spurs me on to finish up. Hopefully Pete's video here will spark renewed interest in this "old school" method of fishing (my favorite as well). Thanks Pete..
  8. As for the original question regarding fight: feel of the fight is more determined by the rod than reel used. I would think that you wouldn't need 22 lb drag on the Fingers more so on Lake O and for a lot less money you could have a worthy reel that would hold the wire. Your money though
  9. I should think that 1,000 ft wire should fit on it OK. I have an Okuma 30 that takes it.
  10. Just run the wire off 300 reels and use medium weight downrigger rods with a twilli on the tip. I have a couple setups that are about this way for the Fingers and they work fine and I adjust leader strength according to what I run from them.
  11. They also take some patience when coming from Cannons as the orientation of them is so radically different ( e.g. more horizontal than vertical operation). probably different when starting out with them but when used to cannons for a long time it takes some getting used to
  12. Brian said it exactly right x2 Jeremy
  13. The method of "jerking" or yanking" has been around for centuries and is still frequently employed on the Finger Lakes. There are many versions of it with many different kinds of line or wire and primarily weighted "sinking" lines and wire (e.g. single strand copper, monel, leadcore, or even braid with weights). It is still one of the most productive ways to fish for Lake Trout especially as it is a bottom oriented method.. The one caution though as far as Lake Ontario is that if using it wear finger and hand protection of some sort (e.g. leather glove or perhaps the first two fingers and thumb cut from leather gloves) because of the presence of the larger fish and especially Kings which sometimes are mixed in with lakers on or near bottom. Also there is the possibility of hanging up on bottom while trolling with wire and both these activities can result in severe cuts or even loss of fingers if unprotected. In the first pic the spoon on far left is the Sutton #38, next the #71, third from left is the Williams Wabler (actual spelling) while the last one on right is a version flutter type spoon specifically for jerking wire (note the hook positioned so it doesn't snag bottom). The flutter spoons were normally run just off bottom on a three way swivel with dropper weight and leader from 2-25 ft., The Williams could be run that way off bottom or by itself with a lot of wire out on bottom. A more frequent method involves the heavier versions of the Sutton spoons changed out to a single hook - or the main method of using spoons like the Pfleuger #4 or #5 or Great Lakes #4 spoons (2nd pic) right on bottom and tied directly to the wire with a loop and haywire twist without a swivel snap (middle pic). Another popular and effective lure type (3rd pic) is the flatfish, Heddon Tadpolly, or Twin Minnow (on or without leader) run right on or near bottom and the standard treble hook switched out for a single and inverted (stronger and less likely to hang up on bottom).
  14. Sk8man

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    Good feedback too Bill
  15. Might want to check here Vlad and speak with one of the techs https://www.boats.net/catalog/tohatsu
  16. location? PM sent
  17. One thing we know for sure is that the fish didn't get down into the weeds in 234 ft of water and the mystery continues....big laker or maybe snagged a freshwater sturgeon? (they are in there)
  18. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article235518867.html
  19. What i find particularly encouraging is seeing the knowledge and skill development of the fisherpersons using this website; not long ago people like Jeremy and others were sorting through information, incorporating, and experimenting with techniques offered by seasoned charter and sports fishermen alike and have now come into their own as savy, competent sources of information and experience themselves and sharing it with others. Best of all is seeing these fisherpersons involve young people and their own children in the process and passing on the ethics underlying the sport. Hooray for LOU!
  20. The way this weather is looking folks may have more time out there than usual
  21. I sure can relate to holding on to stuff
  22. Kathleen - I'm sure your dad would be very proud of you for tackling this task
  23. If the choke was left part way out without being detected and the motor was run for quite awhile it could do that. Apparently some motors may also need a different thermostat than the one that came with the motor appropriate for the specific climate temperatures encountered they are operating in. Not sure if this is an issue with it but it is something that a tech guy mentioned to me in the past. Overfilling of oil sounds like a possible contributor. Sometimes the oil level needs to be filled to just below the upper level on the stick as the oil may become more viscous when warm and then exceed the upper level and if the choke was left on or partially some mixing with the gas may have occurred and have the look of "unburned" fuel turning the oil black.
  24. Here is what Cargill has to say about the issue https://www.cargill.com/salt-vs.-sand-for-winter-road-safety
  25. Cool ....yeah they are real sturdy boats.
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