Sk8man

It is probably related to the current phone app not being supported by the recent website software upgrade. May not work until the new app comes out? I am a computer guy not a phone guy on here so I'm guessing.

Here is Rich's phone number which he previous;ly posted Call or text 607 346 4782 Rich aka bikini bottom

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Same to you Mike and all the LOU crew. A great time to celebrate all the good things this country offers rather than all the stuff on the news etc. Have a fun day everyone.

I'd take him up on the offer John. He is a very good fisherman, with all the right equipment and the right attitude as well from everything I have seen. great opportunity

Of the three weights the fish shape will probably track straightest 15 to 50 ft for spoons, 4 - 15 ft for flashers or attractrors with fly or spoon depending on circumstance, targeted fish, depth run, etc. I usually shorten the lead the deeper I go. Deepest lines usually should be closest to boat but that may not be the riggers; wire divers may be your deepest again depends on circumstances and what you are targeting and running for lures etc.. Easiest way to run multiple lines from riggers is to use sliders. It has been covered multiple times on here so may want to search for the info. I'm sure others may have other ideas or different info but this is off the top of my head for starters.

I guess my question would be: "if the other shaped weights track fine why bother running the cannonball weights at all"? I use 10 lb shark type or torpedoes = no problems

I'm with Frogger and Longline. Not sure how much weight you are running but maybe also going a bit heavier and go with a torpedo or shark shape as they will resist fanning out more horizontally. The round cannonball type in the lower weight range especially had a tendency to do that and even spin around in strong current sometimes depending on what you were running for a setup. I ran them for over thirty or more years and since switching to the shark type and torpedos have never looked back and have zero problems with them. My Black releases have always been on the cable itself. In the old days when I tried hooking up to back of the weight itself and ran an attractor of any type the blowback was awful; not so when run from the cable. I'm talking about weights in the 8-12 lb range (common in previous years) and I believe the heavier weights used today (15-20 pounds) may be a different story.

As mentioned the Atlantics often like smaller stuff presented at a little higher speed. They are more of an incidental catch on Lake O but in the Finger Lakes where they occur and there are no Pacific salmon available they will respond to some "Coho- like" presentations like small dodgers (e.g. 6 inch) with meat strips trailing or small sawbellies but placed up higher in the water column generally than the stuff you'd be using on Lake O for kings or lakers etc. Another avenue for running bait is to use Sutton Hemlock Spinners (old school approach) with frozen bait either smelt or sawbelly or in a pinch a shiner run higher in the water column than for lakers. Both Atlantics or Browns respond to it. I have made up small sets of cowbells with Colorado blades that can be used to trail a meat rig or even a hemlock spinner behind it with meat. It is usually the bigger ones that are attracted to the meat setups too.

Most folks use the 30 lb 7 strand. An additional brand is Accustrand and I believe emptystringer on here usually has some for sale. I have had good luck with it but I have also used the other brands mentioned and if treated right most brands work fine but you do have to periodically examine them and perhaps cut out any questionable areas for a few feet up. The wire does vary in tensile (breaking) strength and there are differences as in the finish as some are very shiny while others have a "camo" or brownish finish. A critical variable is kink resistance and most wire at 30 pound test kinks fairly easily when the tension is off it ( e..g. curly cues). So in short, it becomes largely a personal preference issue.