I don't use snubbers either. And when setting up a wire diver rod, make your flouro leader no longer than your rod. When the dipsy (if you're using them) gets to the rod tip, tip up and have rod man back up to net the fish. And to add to the copper... Gambler suggested multiple rods because to do want to deploy all of the copper on a given rod. I'm pretty new to copper as well (going from advice from knowledgeable guys). I run a 450 down the chute. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United