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I used to flatline a medium sized shad rap over deep water and it would very often put a big king in the boat when nothing else would. That said, there are better things to run that will be more consistent. I ran the shad rap when i didnt have a ton of gear and an extra lure in the water was better than nothing. The lures in the picture arent too big but i would be concerned they would run too shallow this time of year. (most productive water is usually more than 40 feet down later summer) The top lure is a good one early in the season then the fish are much shallower.
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+1 on the temp monitor for the freezer. I lost everything years ago. Worst part was I found out via the stink as it had been off for several days.. Monitoring equipment is cheap insurance these days. I have a couple of temp monitors. The govee one is about $60 and the app is pretty nice. I also have one that isnt controlled via wifi/app and that is even cheaper. My not save you when you are away from home but it still gives you an idea if something is wrong. More importantly, I can guarantee my beer is ice cold. You'll need lithium batteries in the freezer sensor if using a "dumb" one that isnt rechargeable. They last forever.
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You can mount any of the livescope transducers to the transom with the mount that they come with and use it for down view. Problem is that it needs to be mounted UNDER the bottom of the boat such that the whole thing sticks out. That seems like a really bad idea. I have a lvs32 that I mount on the transom via removeable "kayak" style clamp on mount. It has its drawbacks but also works. I did this because I wanted the other capabilities of the transducer such as forward and perspective view. ( i will move it to the trolling motor for that) The PS30 is better if you only want to use it in a trolling application. I can see a flasher spin with the lvs32 down 70-80 feet but the resolution isnt great. That said it has a lot of advantages over the ps30 in shallow applications, viewing structure etc.
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Sandy 7/13 Jigging
13owhunter replied to idn713's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
We did a bit of jigging today after getting a few in the boat. No bites but it was interesting watching them on the livescope. At one point I had 3 fish following my lure for more than a couple of minutes. Id reel it up slowly 10 feet and then drop it down and they would follow. No bites though. We were only at it for an hour or so. In that hour, I had at least 15+ fish "interested." I was using a moonshine casting spoon and a bucktail jig. A lot of followers on both. I really think that this style of fishing could be very productive if you dialed it in. West coast style mooching could be the ticket. Maybe a heavy bladed jig or alabama rig? -
Sandy afternoon . It's official !!
13owhunter replied to HB2's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I'm going to hold you responsible if we don't crush it in the morning after making this call! =0) -
Im assuming that the issue is getting wrapped around stuff and chewing up your line and not "snapping the line" due to "horsing" them in.
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Sandy 7/13 Jigging
13owhunter replied to idn713's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I am going to try some other jigging type lures that I have from my west coast saltwater days. A couple of them are similar to a heavy rattle traps where the line connects in the middle of the lure and they have two treble hooks. (mirrolure mullet????) I think you are much more likely to stick one on the fall with something like this than a typical spoon that rocks back and forth on the fall (with the hook in a bad position 50% of the time) I will report back if I have any luck. -
As a light line purist, I cringe a bit at the thought of using heavier line than absolutely necessary but you have me thinking. I'll be out in the morning with someone that is more inexperienced than I normally fish with and I have 15# on a few rigs. Probably a good idea to swap out some leaders this evening..... Leaders on F/F shouldnt matter much anyways but 50# flouro is getting pretty stiff. Wonder if flouro even matters. A bit of stretch with mono isnt a bad thing with newbies behind the reel.
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Line Getting Caught in Treble Hook
13owhunter replied to VanderLaan's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Pretty sure I have lost a fish or two because of this but never bothered getting out the epoxy. Now that Im reading this, there really isnt a reason not to do this. I can probably do the majority of the rigs in my "go box" in just a few minutes...... Not sure how I feel about those FishUSA hooks. Seems like overkill to the point that it takes away some of the gap of the hook..... -
I can't seem to get mine calibrated very well but its reasonably close. No reason not to try and get it as close as you can even if its really just for a reference. Interested to see what others have to say about this. I fiddled with mine for a long time and couldnt get it as close as i would have wanted to. If there is a trick, Im all ears......
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Sandy 7/9 AM Jigging Kings
13owhunter replied to idn713's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy Vertical Jig Kings
13owhunter replied to idn713's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
This is awesome! I got one jigging early in the season and cant wait to give it another shot. Unfortunately life and lousy weather every time I can get out has gotten in the way of getting after it. Was there any particular technique that you think worked the best? Were they, primarily hitting, it on the fall? FOW? Thank you! With a little luck I hope to get out there next Sunday and will be bringing the jigging rods. (Sandy) -
Having a fishhawk helps build intuition about speeds very quickly. Once you have some intuition, it isnt that hard to tell whether you are going too fast or to slow MOST of the time. Id say 80% of the time my GPS speed is between 2.2 and 2.7mph this time of year and I am pretty confident that my gear is running right. I set gear at 2.5. My fish hawk isnt calibrated perfectly but it is a good baseline. Where a fishhawk really shines when you are fishing with or against a stiff current. There have been a few times I have been out there and it amazes me how big of a difference there is between GPS and down speed. That said, your divers will also tell you if you are off quite a bit. Fishhawk gives you better information but you can certainly catch fish without one. I think its also worth nothing that boat and speed control are a big part of this as well. I would rather go without my fish hawk than the throttle control on my kicker.
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"Sams Pro" releases were designed for braid and work well once you get the hang of using them. They are directional and the way you wrap the line does matter. This is worth it for me as I dont want any extra line connections if i can avoid it. I run braid backer on everything so these are a good choice for me.
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What's your opinion of the current state of our fishery?
13owhunter replied to Yankee Troller's topic in Open Lake Discussion
I'd love the opportunity at some bigger fish. A 15#er on 20#+ gear really isnt much of a match. That said, Im not sure Id trade the current state of things at a chance at some big uns. Last couple of times I have been out this year we caught a lot of nice fish and didnt have to work very hard for them. We didnt do nearly as well "back in the day" but my electronics, gear and knowledge is way ahead of what we had back then. What we really need is lots of really big fish! Really like the idea of putting a few 50#ers out there. Sure be a good excuse when something goes wrong! -
I think this is wishful thinking. Looks like most of the taxes arent really specific to a "road tax" although most of the revenue is used for highways and bridges etc. One could argue that your boat on a trailer uses the road but what about my mower? She uses a lot of fuel and doesn't use the road at all. =0)
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Another slide diver guy here. I have been running 35 foot of 40# mono as well to a 6 foot section of flouro. I ran 30# mono for a bit but felt I was replacing it too often. Ive been running black slide divers with the clear mag ring (no mag weight) Works well for me.
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Lots of good info on this thread and LOTS of people on here that are willing to help. Next time you go out, share some details (in a new thread) of what you used, how you did etc. The more details the better. This is very technical fishing and there is a learning curve. For me, confidence was a big one my first couple of seasons. I changed things up a lot and tended to overthink things. I now have a pretty good bag of tricks that I am confident in. If you are running 12 foot dipsey leads that should be fine.
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I have two cheap lithium batteries and one charges "weird" sometimes. It charges faster than it should every once in awhile. Really not sure if it is the charger or battery. If I unplug it for an hour and plug it back in it charges normally. This caused significantly lower run time until i figured it out. When I was troubleshooting the issue, I picked up two cheap LCD voltage displays from amazon so I could see the voltage when charging and using them. They use hardly any power. May be worth picking some up so you can monitor voltage on the water. Like it was mentioned above, if one battery has more capacity then the other, the lower one will die real quick.
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Standard rings with a twilly tip will work fine. I would be concerned that a shorter rod doesnt have enough forgiveness for a diver especially a large one. Big advantage in running a longer leader with a longer rod as well as working fish around riggers, outboards etc. A short one will work fine I'm sure but most of the rods specifically designed for wire divers are 9 or better. I think all of mine are 10 footers. Most of my shorter freshwater rods designed for trolling dont have near enough backbone for a diver. If you have some heavier ones they should work fine. If you arent sure, run your TDR. At least if something goes wrong you arent out an expensive rod.
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Airmar P66 is not listed as compatible on Garmins site but works fine (you just need to set it up manually) I believe that has the widest cone out there. Looks like it may be similar to the B117 you listed but its not very expensive if you didnt need a through hull. I love mine and am using it with an adapter cable with a 93sv along with a gt54 for HD and side imaging.
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I can see someone running out of fuel due to a faulty gas gauge. My gas gauge is pretty sketchy. It tells me weather Im full or not full. In between that it kinda works if I slosh fuel around but i do not trust it at all. While I agree you shouldnt be out on the lake not knowing your fuel level, its a mistake many smart people have made. (for the record I have not) =0)