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JR, you have a PM

If you do not want to buy a probe, use a thumper rod with a luhr jensen dodger as your attractor on it. You can see the "thump" of the dodger in the rod at the correct speed (around 2.4mph.) Any slower you will get a quick pulse because the dodger is just fluttering slightly compared to the eratic side to side wobble.

When you are letting it out, you are letting it out too fast. Back the drag off and let it slowly go out instead of using free spool.

I have caught a couple over the years that colorful. I would think it is from laying tight to the bottom. They also color up like that when they spawn in the fall.

Get well soon Glen.

Happy Birthday Chad!

Nice job Rob! Glad to see those kings off Sandy!

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:Escape ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):5/12/12 Time on Water:545 Weather/Temp:70 Wind Speed/Direction:10 - 15 Waves: 1-2 Surface Temp: 49 Location: LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: ? Total Boated:? Species Breakdown:Kings, coho and lakers Hot Lure: Showtime Spin Doctor with a Mirage fly for silvers and Custom spin n glow behind a Green Hammerhead Cowbell Trolling Speed: 2.5 kings 1.3 lakers Down Speed: same Boat Depth: 140 - 165 Lure Depth: Kings - 40 - 100 lakers on the bottom in 140 - 150 ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Started the Morning just East of the nose. Slow for the first hour until we hit a color change. Lots of hits, runs and drops on the wires and coppers. Riggers were quiet for the most part. After putting some medium kings and cohos in the boat, we decided to laker fish. 1 1/2 hours of laker fishing and we boated a 19lb 6 oz laker that puts us in 15th place in the derby. Lots of fish all over the water column. I ran high rods for steelhead most of the morning but another trip in the books with no steelhead. Pics and video to come!

Thanks wrongrod. I was going to do the same thing.

Anyone use rod slicks to store their trolling rods when they are not in use? I was looking in the cuddy yesterday thinking they would really help keep things more organized.

Now we did it. We woke up Bob.

Congrats Jeremy. The ride with Tom in the AM was the reason the Am trip was full of laketrout. It took all day to shake his curse!

That laker had some good taste in spoon colors Mark. It is amazing what a fish will do to survive.

Rob, Are you going to ride this sale out until retirement?

Chickenwing, NBK, Gator, Froggy, Froggy Glow, should I keep going?

Adam, The number of fish taken out of Lake Ontario every year is a drop in the bucket compared to the number stocked and naturally produced. I would worry more about the trout fisheries. There are a lot less stocked and less natural reproduction. With the fragile state of the alewive population over the past decade or 2, catch and release might just be an added stress to the alewives. Nothing worng with guys going out and beating up some kings and taking some home for a nice meal.

All Stinger spoons have this problem. All other brands out last them by a long shot. I take all the paint off of them after most has come off (usually a couple fish) and re paint them myself. We should not have to deal with this for the $$$$$ they are getting for them.

I run them off riggers and a thumper rod. You can run them behind divers BUT, the slow speeds + divers + fishing close to the bottom, is not worth the hassle IMO. I run my riggers until they hit bottom, bring them up one foot, let them settle for a minute, drop them to the bottom again, lift them one foot and then keep them within 3' of the bottom. On the thumper rod, I run the weigh 4' down from the 3 way so the cowbell and lure stay off the bottom if it bumps. Run them slow. 0.7 - 1.8 are the speed (at the ball) tolerance of most cowbells.

Nice report Rob. Congrats on the LOC brown.

I have saw some pretty crappy clip jobs over last season. Some were half clipped or a quarter clipped. Also don't forget, kings can regenerate an adipose fin according to the US Fish and Wildlife Service rep that was at the Sandy Creek Shootout last summer.

Anyone hear the final numbers of kings to be stocked? Was it as low as they were expecting? Iread in NY Outdoors about the shortage of browns and coho but the article said nothing about Kings.

If I were in Oswego, I would be loving the publicity. I would be banging the beach for browns all alone! I understand this does not happen all the time on the East end but the publicity for the Lake and that area are nothing but good things. We all know the winner is going to come out of Niagara county. The chances of finding the pig in Lake O is a lot higher when you are fishing the BIGGEST concentration of salmon on the lake. Lake O can handle the pressure of the internet. Smaller bodies of water, not so much. As for a June lul, there has not been a june lul out of the port I fish for me in years. The offshore steelhead fishing and king fishing was great the past 5 years. If you were not catching kings, you were not trying hard enough or fishing deep enough.

I got rid of my leadcore set ups for copper. You achieve more depth with less line in the water. Copper seems to catch way more fish for me also. Besides, when you ruin a 200 copper, you can get more money back at the scrap yard for it!

Congrats on the 1st place brown. Make sure you keep it frozen for the awards ceremony!