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Congrats Rob! You and Hunter are having awesome seasons this year!

NO helmet on the kid too!

I tried to get him to come a little closer to get a shot! The first buck wanted nothing to do with me. He could have cared less at the calls.

Shot a doe yesterday and had something crazy happen. I watched her fall 50-60 yds from the stand. After a while, a nice buck came over and preceded to beat the sh*t out of her! He gored her in the neck and kept kicking here ripping the fur off of her side. After he left, small bucks came over and wouldn’t leave her alone. I guess this is what happens when a doe doesn’t put out!

Congrats Steve!

Aren't you supposed to site in the day before gun season?

Congrats Hunter!

The Lake Managers do not do anything about some issues unless there is A LOT of noise made over it. They are a state agency and we all know how hard it is to get anything done in this state. For example: Coromorants are a HUGE issue that everyone that fishes the lake has an issue with. The DEC is well aware of the issue yet there still isn't a season. Canada has opened a season on cormorants. Sitting back and watching worked well in Lake Huron for the salmon fishery.... I would rather not watch the fishery I have enjoyed my entire life fade away because we sat back and waited to see what happened.

Increased competition for a dwindling bait population caused the size reduction in Michigan. Guys were going an entire season without catching a king over 20lbs! They cut stocking 50% in one year and over the next couple of years, the size rebounded along with the bait population.

Lake Michigan cut stocks 50% and saw a drastic rebound in size. We made big cuts and size didn't rebound. Any idea why Brian?

Well, scratch that thought. The alewife weight according to this chart shows the weight has been stable or heavier. Microsoft Word - 2019_preliminary_status_of_Lake_Ontario_Alewife.docx (glfc.org)

Are the alewife as healthy as they were in the early 2000's? There is data on it somewhere. I have seen it at the meetings in the past but I can't remember what it said. If the alewife are not as healthy, a king would have to eat more of them to get the calorie intake to gain weight. Hunting alewife longer will burn more calories than it would if they got more calories out of fewer alewife. Just a thought and I will look to see if I can find the data. Maybe Shreksoff can chime in. He is the bait guru on the lake.

Lake Ontario is the best salmon fishery on the East Coast. Why not make it better? The money generated by this fishery should only push lake managers to push for more for this fishery. Unfortunately, NY state puts minimal effort into anything fishing / hunting related. If the size is declining, why should we sit and wait until they don't reach 20lbs?

If the Salmon are managed for the lake fishery, shouldn’t they be managed better in the tribs? We manage the lake better for steelhead for the tribs.

A while back the DEC didn’t have enough fish return to the hatchery. They were going to other tribs and taking fish from guys that were catching them.

They only keep the fines that have warrants and other crimes attached to them. It’s really sad. Here a guy does his job and it’s all for nothing. These guys are sportsmen like us and hate seeing the BS that goes on with fish and game in this state. I couldn’t imagine doing my job and all my effort is wasted day in and day out.

It wouldn't help. The ECO's do a great job busting guys every year with a very limited staff. It's the law, courts and BS fines that are the issue. The city of Rochester throws fishing fines written in the Genny gorge away because they are petty compared to what they deal with every day. The fines are a joke. Snag salmon in Alaska and see how that works out for you!

Congrats Rob!

I'm not saying there isn't an issue with the lake. I'm saying it seems to be improving. All the lakes have changed. We have seen a huge change on Honeoye during the ice season. We have adapted and found the lake has changed but isn't dead. Most of the weeds are gone in the winter and the fish have adapted to mid lake open water food sources.