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raider44, the cheater spoon is your upper spoon on muppped rig

dont think that your doing something wrong on days when the riggers dont fire, some days they might be hot and others completely dead. i think chris' 100 rule is a good place to start. i dont stacked downriggers too often anymore but with that in mind i do like to run mupped rigs and cheaters. heres an example of a setup: downrigger rod w/ 20# mainline w/ a smaller spoon 15-25' behind ball. i lower the ball 8-15' and connect my cheater. for my cheater line i use a 6-8' leader of 30# big game w/ a roemer liberator release w/ a larger spoon. dont feel that you have to use a larger spoon above a smaller one. ive found that spoons of the same size work great too. basically you want spoons that are either the same pattern or very similar and always the same manufacturer. i typically run this rig at the very top or the bottom of the active strike range. i dont run this rig extremely deep (over 100') or extremely shallow (under 35'). when the rig is really working i might even put the same spoon on another downrigger. heres another example: lets say on my mupped rig i have my bottom spoon down 60' and 20' off the ball w/ a small spoon. 10' above that (which is 50' down for those without a calculator handy) i have my cheater w/ a larger spoon. then ill take a downrigger (on the same side of the boat) and drop it down w/ a small spoon 40-45' down and 35' back.

this subject has always been a "can of worms"!

anyone have a place to pick up some replacement butt caps for diawa heartland rods?

spring? its not even winter. its fall with winter just around the corner.

pretty sweet!

fall is the best time of year to catch a giant and september tends to be a great month. forage is the biggest in fall and once water temps start to cool down, pike really put the feed bag on. fishing can be as intense as early spring fishing but with larger fish. aggressive tactics and big baits (spinnerbaits and large inlines) are the way to go.

outriggers help alot too guys. setting the outside dipsey in the outriggers gives you all kinds of room. a little extra separation in the water and you dont have to worry about the rod tips interfering with each other.

are you kidding me? i hope you have a smile on your face when you typed that. your probably entering your credit card info right now ordering them for the whole yankee troller team.

rick, now your gonna have jax wearing those damn things...

your itching to get out already? the ponds dont look as good as they did last week. long pond was really opening up today from the parkway. dont worry though, soon enough well be able to drown some minnows.

congrats on the bear. so how about a hunting story to go with the pics?

what dont you like about a v8 i/o?

not that its a big surprise to us but nys answer has always been to tax us more. i also heard 1 of the proposals was for new nys license plates...

thanks tom

nice buck, congrats

i put berts on my boat last and cant say enough about them. if you decided to go with berts heres a site with great prices for you. http://www.buyfishingstuff.com/berts.html

i think being a new derby it was that way to bank some cash and get people interested.

ive heard of walleyes being catch in there but not by any numbers. ive only bass fished the lake and have done quite well the times ive been there.

chad, we all assume that you spend ALL of your time (day and night) working on only this site. just kidding good. to see that you got some fishing and hunting time in. great job on the site. theres a bunch of guys on here that im sure will pile on their appreciation

im all for the 3 rod rule. i think it would be great to consistently fish 8-10 rods per trip. safe to assume that most of you guys would approve a change like this?

can you update the pics as the season progresses. time lapse decomposition? thanks

some happy boys...

congrtas rick