Missdemeanor

The word of the day was Mud... Lots of dirty water! Ran to where I thought there was some cleaner water ( night before road scouting mission,) and found it was still dark and dingy.. put out short shallows and long shallows bay rats ...120 ft back on boards. Glow frogs on mini Chinook divers 15 ft back... First hour was painfully slow. Got a call from Yankees Craig and Rich ( thanks boys) that they had decent color water ahead of us and we're getting bit... Rolled into a small patch of water and pulled a pile of browns, a coho and two really good spring sharks. Those kings were not happy and the anglers had their hands full with the light tackle. Colors that worked... Citric shad long and short... Wonder bread long, fire tiger long, dirty goose short, frog short.... Beautiful day and a great start to 2023... Be well...

Maybe the biggest turnout we have ever had... Thank you! Let's pray for continued success for all pen rearing sites.....

...I'm glad to see Sandy step up and take the bull by the horns... Not a big fan of how the kings were "re distributed" .. I give Jesse Hollenbeck alot of credit. . Good luck to you guys.... Let's hope the king pens return to Sandy and the other ports it was taken from.. Let's pray for a longer spring so you guys can keep the little guys a little longer.... . . .

I will take this one Sam.... The Genesse raised steelhead for many many years... And for many many years, the project fell on the backs of the same Lake anglers. Fast forward to a few years ago..... The DEC gets influenced by a hand full of people ( non lake anglers) to lower the creel limits of steelhead in tribs as well as the lake. The new creel limit was adopted with much opposition from the Lake guys. So now if people catch more than 2 steel, #3 has to get tossed back... Even if it's dead... Illegal to keep #3... And steelhead tend to not make it when you bring em in on junk rods or from deep depths.... Lake Anglers made a very good argument that fell on deaf ears.... And the new regulation went through... So after a vote at the ( then ) Genesee Charter Boat Association meeting... It was unanimous that we cease raising steelhead... I mean it was Lake Guys who did all the work anyway and got a regulation jammed down our throats. So we have been approached many times since then to start raising steelhead again... We would love to... But only when the Lake Creel limit returns to 3. Not alot to ask, since it was our sweat and bull work that has made this program possible from the beginning.... The simple solution... Bring it back to 3 silvers ( including steelhead) and we would 100% raise them right next to our kings.

I'll comment for a bump. Absolutely agree with you. Jim was a gentleman for sure. He was always available for a chat. I really like talking to the older fellas who have been around the lake. It was cool to hear his stories about how he and a couple local Captains came up with Honeybees and Optimizer spoons. To this day, I still run both...especially those bright red ones for steelhead offshore. Those green ones are great for browns also. Good luck with the sale ...

I don't need explanations.... It obviously doesn't matter what I, or the numerous other people who have similar opinions have. Jigger... Every time you post season dates there are comments about January dates.. what did you expect would be different this time? I won't waste my time with a phone call... Kinda like when I wasted my time with the survey I filled out....

I know exactly what your doing... Braid is not the way to go. I use two or three rod lengths of #50 mono. I attach it with a small spro barrel swivel. No curly wire... I can run a little lighter leader if I'm running spoons ( the 50# momo has a little stretch). Plus the fleas don't like the 50#.

And yet again.... No January Season for Ducks! I'd say I'm surprised, but I'm not. Glad I wasted my time filling out that survey.

Bob Gilmore used to own Jay Vee.... I don't remember the Mt Hope Store... But I was in Jay Vees on Norton alot.... Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Lake Ontario United mobile app

This Atlantic was caught a couple weeks ago.... 6 years old... Was stocked as an adult this past February out of Port Hope with 80 other adult Atlantics.. There is a ton of bait in the lake.. all different year classes of bait ( I've been closely watching stomach contents this year). Not to mention the fish is Six years old... How big do you think a 6 year old King would be? Just saying..... Yea it was a hatchery fish eating pellets, but it had 6 months to put on size and God knows there it's a tremendous amount of food in the lake this year. The small mouth bass idea is kind of interesting... How great would it be to have that lake fishery back to its status in the 80s and 90s? Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Rob Westcott, Hank, or Chad... Please delete this thread.... Unbelievable... A guy can't post updates on pen rearing with it getting into a full on political debate about somthing no angler or member of this forum has anything to do with. .. God forbid someone tries to keep central basin anglers informed. SMH Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

According to the research Pen reared fish have a greater survivability rate than direct stocked fish... That's the only reason why I think pen rearing is worth it... So let's think this through... I'm part of the guys who show up, get pens ready, dump em in the water....volunteer to hand feed these fish 5 x a day to make sure every part of the pens get feed in them ( auto feeders probably work just as well... I've never seen them work). Most guys who have fished for a long time have seen the decrease in the fall return... So is the imprinting working? No... Even the DEC question it.... So why do we do it? To get a better product into the lake that has a fighting chance to make it to 3 years old. A better product for everyone... Not just Genny basin anglers.. Besides, the muddy water flowing out is a whole lot better at hiding little guys than gin clear waters. In addition.. I'm sure the little guys would do fantastic getting direct stocked in gin clear water from a helicopter ( sarcasm). Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I mentioned Fairhaven.... Sucks man... Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

All Good L.R. I completely understand the frustration from the Sandy Creek fishermen... As well as the others ( Fairhaven...Sodus...ect). I Definetly don't agree with alot of the DEC biologist's theories. I do agree that pen rearing Salmon is an important part of ensuring that the young salmon have a chance at survival... Imprinting? I don't really buy into it but who am I? Just a knuckle dragger who has fished for these critters since the 70s ( very big decline in fall runs). Maybe some things will change in the future... Alewifes keep rebounding, increased Salmon stocking, Steelhead limits returned to 3 ( that's another subject for another topic)... Return of Caledonia ... You know a guy can dream... In the mean time, we deal with the hand we are dealt... Sometimes it's pocket aces.. Sometimes it's seven two off suit. I'm still going to volunteer my time, and sweat to help the salmon... Just like lots of other guys throughout both sides of the lake. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

No matter rain or sleet or snow.... Our kings gotta eat! Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

First night feeding session for me... Boy were our little guys active! As soon as the food hit the water, they boiled up on it. Really good to see them so active already. Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

The Genny Salmon pens went in last night.. Good group of lake anglers busted their rear ends to get those pens back in the water this year. We are good to go for the arrival of our Kings the week of April 11. The Genny is an ideal spot for kings to survive predation. Muddy water hides them from aerial threats and the swift river current dumps an out in the lake at a pretty good clip. Have a great season! Sent from my VS996 using Lake Ontario United mobile app