Gill-T, no offense taken. I am just deer depressed right now. I should have mentioned I also had a stand stolen from behind my house this week which is a first for me and has me baffled as to what kind of person could enjoy this incredible sport out of a stolen stand!? As for my property, I have never seen the population of does this low. I have been hunting my camp for 22 years. To the best of my knowledge nobody has any significant food source around me. I did not hunt a very productive stand for the first time this year to hunt a funnel that has been known to be a travel corridoor for BIG, traveling bucks during the rut. I have also shot several does in gun season from this stand. With a buck down early with bow I wanted to see what this stand would allow me to see this year. I have seen several good groups of does in a very green(wild but mowed) field just down the road from my camp, but that and a few in the yard and 4(seen by brother) the night before the gun opener is all. The very sparse shots on the gun opener speak volumes to me. I plan to hunt a stand on the edge of my bedding sanctuary at night and my go to hardwoods gun stand in the mornings on a well traveled ridge. It is still early but the does have me wondering what is going on on a property I normally fill my doe tags every year. We will see. Thanks for the feedback. Tank