Fat Trout

It doesn't sound bad (x2 that is). In all honesty I have my fixed X4d transducer right next to my lowrance HDS total scan transducer (within 6" of each other) and no issue with 83khz or 200khz or medium chirp operation. I understand the Fish hawk operates at 70khz. I don't see prices getting cheaper (unfortunately). If you can run 10lb balls it would help. At 2.5 your blowback with could be 25 ft of depth @ 100 ft believe it or not esp with 8lb balls don't change your game, just some data for you

Tks for the reply. Jumping happens a little on my X4D when its really deep I don't mind it because you generally know what's crap and whats the real number so your getting what you need. Your dealing with a depth, blowback and random interference. Blow back in the case of the X2 is because the cable isn't a straight line, rather its a bow so the deeper you go the transducer on the cable is probably pointing to the rear of the probe more. Sounds cool though. If you can touch 100ft + with that thing thats great. Pricey but I can understand the transom/transducer issue for mounting. I also can't believe what the X4 and X4D have gotten to for price these days either.

I have an X4D so really I'm only asking out of curiosity. How deep have you found that transducer to work? Any limitations? There was a time when I was in @Low Baller shoes and was just winging it without a probe but I'm curious if that smaller transducer pushes enough power to get to lets say 100ft or so.

Unfortunately this seems to be a question with no great answer. Im going to fish usual areas for this time of year and hope for the best. Im not really interested in running to extreme deep water Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Same here. I'll be out unless the wind keeps me in. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

@Tall Tails is pretty much saying it. For the east end in the corner (ie Mexico / Pulaski) a west or northwest wind plows all the surface water into the bay...it hits the inshore area and the surface water displaces the bottom water pushing the bottom water OUT toward the center of the lake. The harder the wind and longer the more it pushes warm water IN on top and cold water OUT....to the north and west to varying degrees making the thermocline deeper and deepr. The faster it happens and stops (or varies) the more unstable and you can find pockets of temp up/down a bit as you move out from shore. To the contrast East winds, south east winds, north east winds, south winds will do the reverse.....the more east/west you have the more impact in Mexico bay itself....South winds impact Oswego and west of Oswego more quickly due to their close proximity to deep water directly to the north but there are some other variables and I won't begin to try to understand the exact dynamic from Fairhaven and on as a northwest or north wind pushes surface water in but it "squirts" out to the east / west depending on direct wind angle angle depth contours and the obvious "corner" that there is etc. I've been doing this long enough that I'm use to it (in Mexico bay) but its not universal and its always a challenge. I feel like Mexico Bay is more dramatically impacted some years given the more shallow lake contours and I have had years fishing really deep and some not as much. This year things have been deeper but not nearly as bad as some years. Last year and the year before were particularly "good" with shallower general thermocline depths....80 ft...hey great. So much so my 16# downrigger balls collected a little dust. This year I'm running them much more but I'm still not yet at the extremes I've seen years where I have 160ft of cable out to get to temp. I'd love to avoid the 16# downrigger balls but unfortunately I have them for a reason. I'll edit to add on that to me...in mexico bay, "flipped" is when you have ice cubes and dead bass damn near on the beach. It fortunately doesn't happen that often (in Mexico bay) but when it does its noticable and generally not good. It seems that an inshore "flip" happens a bit more often to the west.

Better than most the Las few days and if you think thats super slow you haven't been fishing mexico long enough [emoji28] Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Its a fish under your boat heading in your general direction of travel Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I have one auto inflatable for myself since I fish solo at times and a couple of regular ones that I have for anybody I might come on board or I guess as a backup for me I just need to make them more available and I need to make myself wear the inflatable one more often if you watch for sales the auto inflate one sometimes you can find a decent price Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Whistles and light sticks being added next time im at my boat! Im gonna bungee a vest behind each of my front two seats and cargo the spares along the side Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

high position aiming down-ish sounds good to me. You just watch out with that super awesome aiming system. I can retaliate with high intensity mountain bike lighting to the rear

Your gonna need to jack up the radar on a mount extension or put the spot light off the bow. The light would impare the signal at least a little and in exactly the wrong place (forward). Ive seen others with them right off the bow, granted a remote turning system would be needed if you want to aim it. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I love the fish shoes. He's all in!

you know the weird thing is that it seems to go off the rails for like 2 weeks in July then it is quite manageable after.

Back when they first showed up i thought i had heard (or read) that alewives wouldn't or couldn't eat them because of the spiny features. I always thought of them as a negative because they clog your line AND compete for the same food as the alewives. I guess that info (or at least my recollection)was wrong. Thats good to know that they are a food source for alewives. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Its a damn shame Cortland doesnt make the flea flicker line anymore. I got lucky and bought a 2500yd spool of 30# just before it was all gone. Im still working with it and have 1000yds left. Im gonna cry when its gone. I barely get anything on my rigger lines. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

too clean...needs crap hanging out of all of the storage spots lol.

All's fair. Shipping riggers is tough. Sellers choice.

Good question....not a bad watermelon type pattern. @Hachimo didn't look until now but this pattern...keep! Stinger NBK is a king /brown killer. Go Mag too!