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According to my my son's girl friend, the problem that has to be tackled is mostly the smolting time that the atlantics need. They spawn very high up in the watershed and then the small ones will stay in the rivers for 2 to 6 years before they return to the lake. That is very different from the king salmon.Most of the stocking experience is with the kings and the cohos and in the beginning the atlantics were treated just like the kings and cohos.That did not work. Her Masters project is mostly concerned with an effort to find or create a current genetic strain that carries very similar if not identical DNA from the strains that lived in the lake 150 years ago. At the same time there are watershed restoration projects in Ontario to the north and west of Kingston and in the future reaching into Algonquin park and the Ottawa river. It will probably take a few decades,but it is happening.

My soon to be daughter in law is working on a Masters degree at Queens university in Kingston on Atlantic salmon in Lake Ontario. She tells me that the Canadians have been very successful with the Atlantic stocking over the past few years. There is no reason why our side cannot be successful.

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):9-25-11 Time on Water:06.00-13.00 Weather/Temp:66 Wind Speed/Direction:north east Waves: 1 to 2 Surface Temp: 64 Location:the ledge LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 17 Total Boated:9 Species Breakdown:steelhead/king Hot Lure: spindoctors with flies,glow froggy with froggy dodger, luhr Jensen 00 yellow dodger and dream weaver ss orange crush. Trolling Speed: 2.4-3.6 Down Speed: 2.2-2.9 Boat Depth: 370-550 Lure Depth: between 45 and 65 ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS Left the Genny around six and had to maneuver between all the combat fishing boats (20) just to get out. Headed due north and on the way north I saw what I am pretty sure is Longline (who else takes pictures with a flash light at 6.30?).Along the way I slowed down a couple of times to see what the screen looked like and at 380 it was looking promising So I lowered the dipsy's and trolled farther out ,bur no dice.Picked it up again and went all the way out to 550 to find an empty screen.Started trolling back and as the trolling direction turned south,the bite started. Pretty much on everything I put out,all the way back to 370 fow. Got a few real nice hits,that came to the surface and started dancing on the water. Got a very nice 2 year old salmon and the rest steelies. Thanks to Reeljerks for the deep water advice. Cornelis. ====================

It was nice to see you out there with the now legal three rods at the back of your boat and the camera flashing. It was just before sunrise and my boat was probably the first one to pass by yours on the way to 500 fow away from the combat fishing zone. Cornelis.

Sometimes when a deer gets hit by a car it will get internal injuries that get infected.The result is a bag of pus that often is quite big.It will sit there until it ruptures and drains or gets reabsorbed.

I was just at Gander Mountain in Henrietta and they are selling 2 packs (2x300 feet) Mason 27 pound test leadcore for $14.95. This is usually somewhere close to $30. Somebody must have put the wrong stickers on the package. This is your chance to get something for cheap. Cornelis.

I think about replacing my leadcore reels and currently under consideration are the Penn levelwind reels like the 209,the 309 and the 320. But I don't know whether the 209 will hold 10 colors of 27 pound test.Does any of you good people have some expertise to share? Thank you for your opinions and advice. Cornelis.

I always thought that Irondequoit Creek only has brown trout, steel head and some rainbow stocking,but never any salmon. Why would any salmon come to Irondequoit creek?

So I tried some cut bait and I got the fight of my life... With an effing sea gull

The only thing that I would do different is the stabilizer being used. I would use "seafoam" stabilizer because this stuff also cleans out the carburetors and injectors.

I tried both. Otter boats with single keels and Riviera triple boards. The riviera boats pull harder when you are running in a straight line in quiet water (Finger Lakes), but when there are currents or when you have to make a turn,the otter boats work way better.I have not run either of them in waves that top 3 foot,but the Otter boats are way more stable in the 3 footers. It seems to me that the main problem with the Riviera and similar boards is that they are way to high up in the water, because of that, they loose a lot of their effective pulling surface.The Otter boat's keel is completely submerged and that makes it so effective.

According to the articles that I have read, it is because Lake Michigan is in a colder temperature zone, which makes for a shorter feeding/growth season. Add to that the quaga mussel that is making a big dent in the food supply for minnows and shad and you end up with smaller fish.

Rolmops; Did the boat have a blue canvas? Yes. Actually a few boats broke away from the pack around that time and they all hauled @$$ to make it to the 500 FOW area. Last week I caught a steelhead with the CRAA tag in 300 feet of water in that area. I hope that they can figure out some of the migration patterns. It is good to hear that you did well there

There are a few guys on this board with scuba gear.You may want to ask if anybody is willing to check the crib and return your probe.

So it was you who came roaring by on your way out

============== ====== =============== Total Hits: 17 Total Boated:9 Species Breakdown:Coho,laker, king Hot Lure: Trolling Speed: 2.5 Down Speed: 2.5 Boat Depth: 130/250 Lure Depth: variable ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== After leaving I-Bay towards the Genny mouth I realized that it would be combat fishing over there so I went to Longline's stomping grounds in front of Russel power station a few miles out. It took a while to get away from the cold water that started at 12 feet but I found some nice breaks where 50 degrees was anywhere between 45 and 80 feet so that is where I set up. A few boats that had been fishing farther inside and one that was quite close to me in the 50 to 70 foot range went way out to what I think must have been 500 feet ,but I just did 8 knots on the way out there when I found lots of fish and bait. I set up there with spin doctors and spoons.The spoons were useless,but the spin doctors and flies were busy all the time specially on the dipsy divers which gave me a lot of big hits , a few seconds of fighting but they mostly popped loose. ( one of these days I will stop using snubbers) On a 10 color leadcore with a coho setup I caught the only king of the day, it was about 8 inches long, but very feisty. I was thinking that I probably fed that one a lot of pellets when it was in the cage.All 7 cohos all came on spin doctors and flies and so did the the laker. At the end of the day the DEC people were at the the I-Bay entrance and they weighed the 2 Cohos that I brought back ) One was 15 and the other 14 pounds. A very nice day out indeed. The DEC guys told me that they are hiring people again, mostly to work in the hatcheries Cornelis.

I run a 19 foot Sylvan.Concerning the Otterboats running like crap,try to tie the knot in a slightly different spot so the angle of the otter boat keel pulls a bit more outward. I sometimes run 500 copper and 10 colors leadcore on each side and they still work great. As for tiller motor, I run a 1964 9.5 evinrude kicker ,but I changed it to remote control,which you can do to almost any tiller outboard. Respectfully, Cornelis.

When I go solo (almost all the time) I try to put out the otter boats and the dipsy diver rods (both) but often without any spoons or flies. I do this to stabilize the boat and make it run a steady course. the dipsies are empty in order to stay legal. I find that this really helps in running a straight line when I am fighting a fish or fixing a rod. Does anybody else use this or a similar technique to run a straight course?

The better swivels on the market are the Spro and the Sempra. They are smaller,but they have bearings and they are very strong for their seize. Another thing is to allow the fish to run and let himself tire a bit before bringing him in. "Setting" the hook with 30 some pounds on the other end trying to go the other way will break lines.

You should try to use a snubber,this will cushion the first impact of a hit,and you can also set the dipsy just a bit looser. What kind of swivels are you using? You remind me of what is was like for me when I first started trolling Lake Ontario.

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Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):9/3 Time on Water:06.00-16.00 Weather/Temp:hot Wind Speed/Direction:west Waves: 1 footers Surface Temp: 72 Location:In front of Slaters Creek LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: around twenty Total Boated:around twenty Species Breakdown:Kings,Steelhead,Lakers Hot Lure: Trolling Speed: 3.3 Down Speed: 2.6 Boat Depth: first 60 then 90/130 Lure Depth: 70/50/10 colors/8 colors/dipsy 210 out (2)/dipsy 180 out (2) ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS We left at six and went out to sixty feet where in spite of warm water there were plenty of marks.Let out the first dipsy and as we let the second dipsy out the first took a big hit which we lost after about 10 minutes.Meanwhile I got the 2 riggers down and the second dipsy took a hit. this one turned out to be a good king in the twenties,another followed within 20 minutes,but then things got very quiet.We went out deeper,around 90 fow and set up there.The thermocline was at fifty feet and when we found our break line it went down to about 70. There the steelhead were just hitting all the time all the way out to 140 feet,at which point we got another king.Later we picked up a few lakers. Mostly we were just having a great time with the steel head. Cornelis ====================

If it is lakers that you are after,you will do well with leadcore. The trick is in trolling live mooneyes (sawbellies) at speeds of 1.6 to 1.9 mph with 10 colors out. At that speed you will reach depths of close to 90 feet. just speed up and slow down in roughly that range.It has always worked for me. Around this time of year they are probably in around a hundred feet of water.

The torpedo wire that I got a little while ago had one very good spool,but another one had a few problems.I contacted the sales rep and he was genuinely interested in what exactly the problem was. He traced it back to a combination of a power failure and a new girl working the machine at the same time. He also gave me another spool to replace the one that had some problems. The torpedo people stand behind their product. Cornelis.