Sk8man

Nice going Mr. Brown Trout....you sure have them dialed in Ed I 'm thinking yore using scent on your new boat itself or something

Al I usually release most fish but when I keep one for the grill I slit the throat with a knife and hold him over the side of the boat or leave the fish in my net in the water to drain and then ice him.

Yes I hear ya on the browns. They are few and far between for me at the north end too. A lot of them apparently go down the Seneca River and I'm wondering how many of them live down there instead of in the lake at this point.... I can't believe how long the shelf out where you were fishing has held fish this year they usually are further south at this point in the season but now I'm pretty sure they will stay north for the Fall bite especially those big lakers.

Like jigstick said....both ways depending on conditions at the time...have to be careful when rough water if running two at same time or combined with spinny on downriggers at same time (tangles come easy) I nearly always run them close to the ball (e.g.4 ft or so) if run on downriggers

In the running for possible disappearing fish 1. smallie 2. raInbow 3. landlock

Yes Al is right and it also is a good idea to bleed them out before putting them in the cooler with the ice for maximum freshness.

Thun - thanks for that chart...I hadn't seen that one before- very useful! Tioga - iIt can be useful to do that if you get a kink aways up the one end of the wire and rather than trashing the wire reverse it and place a very small 50 lb test SPRO (#8 swivel where the kink was so it becomes the "short section" underneath the longer section of wire. I know a lot of guys would say just get a new spool but sometmes you don't feel like waiting for the FedEx truck as while in a derby As far as transferring wire by reversing it on another reel it can be done but CAREFULLY and it should be a two person job to maintain tension on the wire at all times. You also want to start the wire straight in line with the level wind guide when you start it to prevent it going sideways on the spool.

Great to hear guys...hopefully i will get out during the week when not so "busy" (although it didn't look too bad today for a Sunday from the looks of the trailers at the launch) I have a bunch of home made flies I'm anxious to try out on the bows. Maybe fishing in the evening may be more productive.

"what should I put on the second rod?" - A safety line

Not sure about what the above mentioned situation was but we were with friends on a pontoon boat yesterday cruising around and drinking wine (as a passenger) for a few hours etc. and I saw a few boats trolling the Branchport arm and they were hitting the lakers I saw a couple taken within view about 3-4 pounds anyway. They were right out from the state park and pulling rigs in about 150-170 ft near the "hole" late afternoon before the rain.

Craig- A few things come to mind - I think the fish "die-offs" have hurt the fishing here and some folks have been fishing Lake O for kings too. Seneca has been really good this year and when Lake O is too rough to get out on it is often an alternative for a lot of folks around here. Perhaps biggest factor may be the fact that Canandaigua during the height of the summer becomes almost totally a recreational boating lake taken over by the people who come here to party at the north end and who may use their boats three times per year at most and the lunatics that run their jet skiis over your lines etc. ...and then there is the very crowded channel and launch ramp at the north end which on one pariticular Sunday afternoon took us 1 1/2 hrs of circling around waiting to get into the launch because of idiots putting down their tops and buttoning up their boats right in the middle of the launch ramp. Seneca offers a much bigger "sandbox" to play in Just my take on it...can't wait for Fall when all the yahoos are gone