Sk8man

Zack and Keith are certainly "go to" guys for those bodies of water Kevin so have your buddy contact them...it will accelerate the learning curve for him. They are indeed tough lakes to consistently fish.

#6 (80 lb test) SPRO swivel with #5 duo lock snap at the terminus and a #8 (50lbtest) for inline connection.

I've used Sea Flee for the past two seasons and it works pretty well but has a lot of stretch to it but again if you run through using ANYTHING with real dense fleas they will get on it to some degree. It is tough to evaluate because the density varies tremendously throughout the lake and the water column. There is no "foolproof" line that will be completely flealess at those densities. The fact that some folks report little or no fleas reflects this fact rather than any one line being "flea proof".

Rod Hogs info is right on the money

:yes: one for each of you

I have no idea regarding the actual physical impact of the fleas on fish in the ecosystem....maybe someone else may have data on that (if it exists)?

As above they can coat anything really if the density of them is great enough....leadcore isn't immune to this either nor are even the anti-flea lines (e.g. Flea Flicker and SeaFlee). They help but especially at any connection points (e.g. running fluoro leaders,at swivels and snaps etc.) they will gather fleas if the density is very heavy. The flea density is not a CONSTANT...they vary from place to place in the lake and from depth to depth in the water column and seemingly from day to day sometimes. This is why it is about impossible to evaluate whether one line or method is better than another because the density is always unknown and variable. Here are the main culprits: http://www.nyis.info/index.php?action=invasive_detail&id=35 http://www.caudata.org/daphnia/

Seneca is usually a neat alternative to Lake O. but depends on the wind velocity too Seneca can be a bear sometimes too. Sampson is a real good choice for fishing a lot of different areas and sounds as though you had the lakers pegged pretty well

Gator gave you some good scoop on Honeoye and BSmaster hit on a legitimate concern as far as the boat traffic situation...I would add especially at night to that. There are a lot of heavy "partiers" on the lake and a lot are out there at night going back and forth going to cottages or just screwing around and often at high speed. Caution is advised. As Gator mentioned some of the bigger fish are caught at night and there are a lot of big large mouth in there especially in the Spring just as walleye season starts up (in shallows catch and release because of closed season). If your friend has a dock you just wait until about a half hour before dark and cast Rapala like lures ( Bombers, Renegades, Rebels etc about 4 inches long) off the dock. The largemouths will hammer them until about 1/2 to 1 hr after dark usually and then the walleyes come in (as long as the wind isn't too strong....if it is real choppy they won't come to play). In summer the lake goes through some drastic changes as mentioned above (very significant algae blooms etc.) and in addition the weed growth is very rapid and extreme often clogging up the trolling lanes so that you have to look for "paths" largely up the middle of the lake (about18 ft of water or so). Worm harnesses are often effective when trolled all during the season (excluding the ice ).The deepest spot is near the middle-south (out from Log Cabin Point on the east side across diagonally from California Ranch (west side) and is 30 ft deep and despite what might be thought....during the summer it seems devoid of life (probably because of reduced oxygen levels). The perch are often difficult to find in numbers and size and best time seems to be ice fishing but the spots are a long hike from the available entry points (unless yo have access to the cottage then) and happen to be located near one of them). The nematoads seem to be present in the gills and sunnys especially in summer but as gator noted there are some HUGE panfish in the lake and you cull through them for fish without the parasites (not viewed to be harmful to people by the way just a bit on the ugly side) There are some real decent walleyes in the lake but the most frequently caught ones are about the minimum 15 inch size to about 22 inches or so. Most are caught at night but sometime right in the bright sun trolling as well....pretty unpredictable sometimes and very elusive to those who don't know or understand the lake peculiarities. Also of note Spring/Fall Crappie fishing can be exceptional if you can locate them and they are fished just as you are used to doing Kevin (bobber etc.)

Right now the fleas are very thick in many bodies of water and when they get that bad they stick to just about anything including wire or special flea lines (especially at connection points). They even coat downrigger cables ....so much for the "large diameter line" theory Copper seems to be a little better than the other lines in this regard but any connection points (e.g. leader attachments) are still going to get hammered by the fleas when they are real thick. The fleas vary in density throughout bodies of water and within the water column itself and often are found in "patches" when not in exrtreme density. It also seems that the more VERTICAL your line is (regardless of type) the more fleas seem to attach to it. It seems that the only way to minimize the impact when they are thick is to check your lines VERY frequently to prevent massive buildups and many folks are just not willing to do this....I view it as an opportunity to change lures and presentations. Once the water temps go back down in the Fall the flea problem should greatly reduce.

Right now the fleas are very thick in many bodies of water and when they get that bad they stick to just about anything including wire or special flea lines (especially at connection points). They even coat downrigger cables .....so much for the "large diameter line" theory Copper seems to be a little better than the other lines in this regard but any connection points (e.g. leader attachment) are still going to get hammered by the fleas when they are real thick. The fleas vary in density throughout bodies of water and within the water column itself and often are found in "patches" when not in exrtreme density. It also seems that the more VERTICAL your line is (regardless of type) the more fleas seem to attach to it. It seems that the only way to minimize the impact when they are thick is to check your lines VERY frequently to prevent massive buildups and many folks are just not willing to do this....I view it as an opportunity to change lures and presentations. Once the water temps go back down in the Fall the flea problem should greatly reduce.

As always great info and approach to fishing Kevin. Learning is a continual process in life (if you are receptive to it) and the longer you go on the more you realize that you have much more to learn and that there are no magic answers and true shortcuts that substitute for actual experience.....books and opinions, and answers to questions are all "starting points" and only that. Getting that experience involves commitment, time and energy expenditure and as Justin so eloquently put it "You have to love it too".

Good report rolmops and sounds like you some of the same kind of "lookers" we had

Might check at one of the marinas for a map of the lake and bay. There is a launch at Arney's Marina (pretty busy especially on weekends and fee based) that is right on the main road coming from the south (Route 14 N) if you come in from points north or Rt#104 (East or West).The marina will be on the right if you come to town that way and is just before town. Just past Arney's is a public launch that will also be on the right and there is public parking across the road on your left (you'll see vehicles and trailers there and porta potties). There is a launch in town at Warren's tackle shop (Grieg Street) and it is also fee based. Another launch is near the Coast Guard Station out near the pier and channel but it is only operative when the beach season closes (after Labor Day I think and before the season starts in the Spring). There are others at other marina's but they are probably not generally accessible to the public.