Sk8man

Yeah Justin I think he is referring to the probe for the X4 or 4D

http://www.weather.com/video/alarming-prediction-ahead-51223?collid=/video-minutes/great-outdoors

I had a couple savage hits on flasher fly combos last time out running about 175 out and they didn't take either....when that happens I always wonder if they hit the flasher instead of the fly or something. I know I've had the chinooks do it on Lake O many times....even left teeth marks on the tape on the flashers

I think together all of us put together a "plan" for him Good info from all. You're under pressure to perform now jjfishes

Certainly not a "master" of the Fingers (I don't believe there is one we all have our days but that is about it ) I think you will be OK without the riggers right now as there are probably fish suspended in the 50 ft range over whatever (10 color lead core) and wire divers with Flashers or Spinneys and flies generally work well especially with white and or green flies. Of concern is the level of fleas and possible weed pods depending on where you go. I've had better luck with medium and small spoons rather than the magnum sizes but some folks claim they do Ok with them. If it is calm and you can locate the fish jigging is productive....white jigs and white super flukes or white tubes usually work well on the Fingers.

Keep in mind that the longer the leader the further upward the lure will go behind the copper when just running flutter spoons and light stuff like that by itself. Probably less action to the lure the further out you go as well. if you run longer leaders I'd adjust to heavier spoons (e.g. to a NK 28 vs. a Sutton 44 for example). Flasher's and Spinneys don't require an exceptionally long lead. In my view at least the copper wire going through the deep water may attract fish and when an attractor is used as well you're not as worried about "spooking" the fish and more concerned with action of the presentation than say on shallow clear water where the visibility may be more important.

Try here : http://www.fish307.com/cannon-downrigger-parts.aspx They list them for the Mag 10 at about $19

For two years in a row there has been a huge die off of many warm water species especially perch, rock bass, smallmouth and bullheads mainly but also some trout as well.My hunch is that is some of it anyway.

I guess my previous post on this got dumped when the server had problems but basically Pete I said you should be writing a fishing column for the newspaper or magazine fishing pieces ...very captivating description and incredible fish.... Les

Hey Dave sounds as though Sheila is as "hardcore" as you

The max on them is 10 lbs. recommended by Cannon.

You should be able to get some tension on your spool if the reel is working properly....it sounds as though the reel itself that is the problem and not the copper. In that case all the adjustments to the copper setup won't do much until it is corrected.

Mike makes a good point....I've known them both for years and used to live around the corner from them and they are wonderful people but the bait shop being open has always been erratic. They have a lot of "irons in the fire" They've had a variety of people working there over the years and Jadon is usually busy with the sight seeing boat etc. I also encourage folks to do business there but if you are counting on getting bait every day real early in the AM have a back up plan too.

Scrap the Stren it has always had very poor tensile and knot strength. Use Big Game cheaper and better than the Stren.