Sk8man
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Yes... I use the smaller ones on Seneca and I tape up some too The bigger ones I use on Ontario when I run big spoons...and in my view ANYTHING that works is good! -
To me they look like taped up versions with added eyes of the larger version of blanks that Cabela's used to sell. The largest of the three sizes is 4 3/4 inches. Here's what it looks like (close up) without tape or eyes:
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Steve's advice is right on the mark....lakers are a lot of fun especially for kids and newbies and especially on Lake O where they are huge and plentiful and the action is usually more plentiful. They may need a little assistance pulling them in too in order to guarantee success if they are little ones. -
The small Hopkins will work well especially the one with the little white single hook teaser fly attached to the main hook if you have one (the one with the red thread and white feathers). The plain small Hopkins works real well if you attach either the head or tail of a sawbelly to it. Make sure the hooks on the 1/2 to 1 1/4 oz bucktails (white is most often preferred by the lakers in my experience) are incredibly SHARP otherwise you'll get hits and fish "started" but will lose many. The white 4 inch "fluke tail" or tube plastics work well on the bucktails
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If downriggers 30 lb Blood Run Sea Flee mono with a fluoro leader. I wouldn't be using braid at all at that point in the season.
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Good point Sean....the changes have to come from somewhere and I think that is a real possibility. The steepness of the banks on Canandaigua may help accelerate things too as well as the many of thousands of geese wintering here at the north end
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Streaking salmon
Sk8man replied to dirtyworm's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Sometimes throwing it into neutral and letting your lures "flutter" down a bit and then putting it in forward works....they will sometimes hit when the lures are sinking or at the start up. Most fish will only expend as much energy as necessary when feeding but aggressive strikes may be something else again....salmon get curious and come for a look but they may have already fed earlier or at night especially under bright moonlight conditions so unless you happen to "luck out" with your lure coming close to them in the water triggering an instinctive aggressive lunge at it they just look and then go about their merry way leaving us perplexed and frustrated Just my theory of it...the specific setup may be fine. -
And when you look around in the shallows for the most part it is pretty much devoid of fish. A few years ago we scouted the perch schools by sight from the boat ...not any more ...nothing out there to see but an occasional dink or sunny and not marked in the traditional spots on the depth finder so it isn't a mater of them being out deeper because of the Zebras either.
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I figured it was something like a virus....many fish and mostly warm water species (perch, bass, rock bass, suckers etc.) noted last two times out .They were floating in lines out near the middle of the lake with other suspended smaller debris particles and weeds. Quite a smell in some places too. Pretty unfortunate and makes you question the general health of the lake itself these days. It is a very different picture out there than even five to ten years ago.
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John Powell's "old school" info mirrors my experience and I also repaint and tape up lures with compromised finishes. I have yet to catch a steelie or rainbow on a magnum sized spoon. The smaller spoons seem to work best for me trolled at pretty high speed or as sliders too. I find the hammered silver Quick Strike #11's (if you can find them) to be particularly good at this. They also like Sutton West Rivers in brass and silver combo. Alpena Diamonds in silver (I add red spots to them by punching out red fluorescent tape with a paper punch). Small/medium Evil Eyes black with orange or green tape and silver ones with the orange lightening across them. The largest spoons I've found successful are the Northern King 28's with the orange tape (black or silver spoons) and the Pirates of similar size.
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Beautiful fish and experience.....most folks never get to sample that type of experience either....JimB's tip is definitely worth heeding too Catch and release is great but only if done right. Thanks for the report and pic...really neat! -
yankee troller insperation
Sk8man replied to tlr426's topic in Ontario, CA Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (North Shore)
Looks like you folks had a blast. Yeah the lake trout may not be as pretty and fight like the kings but they are a hell of a lot of fun. Nice report and pics. Les -
Wanted Spoon Blanks
Sk8man replied to allaboutfishing13's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
allaboutfishing - you have a PM -
Looks like he either swallowed a bowling ball or a watermelon -
They have to eat sometime Nick
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Nice going Sean I was wishing I was on Seneca for most of my time out on Canandaigua today I'm thinking Seneca is a lot healthier lake than some others right now despite not being problem free....still my favorite lake of all too Les
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good one Ted -
The Fish Hawk transducer currently runs at 70 khz purposely so as not to interfere with common sonar applications so I wouldn't think it would be a problem, I f it occurs it probably would because the Lowrance unit is not selective enough or the transducer possibly to filter the signal properly. I'd try it out first before getting too far ahead of things and go from there
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WTG Mike nothing like breaking them in early.....probably already in his genes reminds me of old times with Mark -
I fall for it every June...always think it might be different... but the fish know better and are probably laughing their arses off down there at us on all these lakes Hey Ted I had on 22's and 44's etc. and today they wouldn't fall for them....did you take out the "vulnerable" ones maybe?
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I went solo and had my lines in at 6AM this morning...figured the fish and bait might still be inthe same 50-80 or so range near the water plant and I was right...they were both there in numbers but after trolling back and forth through them and watching my downrigger rod tips bouncing after hitting the huge bait pods no takers. I changed lures multiple times ... was running two riggers (30 Sea Flee with fluoro leaders (12 lb) cheated and all spoons and a 5 color leadcore various spoons. Then tried a few sticks and then combos no luck there either. Anyway I trolled on the west side for about 4 hrs and headed on angle from Danny's Ex's place south east toward the Christian camp...nothing. At 10:40 AM 40 ft downrigger released and had rainbow on main line about 2-3 lbs released him unharmed at side of boat. Trolled east side until about 1:30 PM and pulled up the lines and the 60 ft rigger had a laker on it about 2-3 lbs released unharmed. That was all the damage I could inflict today. Pretty sad out there....but there was one good thing the Sea Flee lines never had any noticeable fleas.
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Ifishy - the twillis are fine for dipsey wire rigs etc. but you really can't go wrong with roller tips (don't really need all rollers (expensive too) especially if you decide to go to wire. Some of my buddies use braid for their Seth Greens but I hate it after trying two rig lines with it (50 lb Power Pro) both cut off somehow when they pinched off at the side of the roller. I've never had a problem like that with the wire to mono approach. Al my Seth Green rigs and dipsey rigs are wire and roller tipped. There is less friction with roller tips and they come in pretty easy.
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Cool! Good luck with it and the fishing
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I don't believe the Fish Hawk will interfere with the sonars at 70 khz. The two sonars should be run at different frequencies if on at same time. I would mount aall of them on the starboard side away from the turbulence of the kicker if possible.
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Oh oh....thanks...looks like I take my flea downrigger rods with me today. This is shaping up to be an awful year for them from the looks of it. I'll try the north end today and see if anything is happening in the way of fish there in light of your report yesterday. Les Looks as though I'm flying solo today.