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What downrigger releases do you like?
Sk8man replied to bassman69767's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
"Blacks for me too,just starting to have twisting problem right at release. I use the best swivels on the market, wondering if fleas may be problem, or possible double loop i like to use just before clipping line to release. Anybody ever see this?" I've always done about 7 to 10 twists before doing the loop on the arm and it is never a problem. -
What downrigger releases do you like?
Sk8man replied to bassman69767's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Black's with the possibility of Chamberlain's for stackers (saw them used this weekend but still prefer the Blacks for simplicity/speed of use for main release). The Chamberlain's would probably be superior for something like Walleyes though (soft or short hitting). I even used the Blacks way back when they looked like this: -
It is a bit of a challenge but can be done. I've often run two of them as well as two side rigs and two dipseys or toplines on my outriggers back when they allowed 15 single points (single hooks replaced trebles) per rod until they changed the regulation (for a total of 62 lures coming through the water). A downside to it aside from tangling is getting hung up on something like the anchor wires on the barge and losing 30 Sutton"s and bead chains etc. in one incident A number of guys used to run the three or more jug rigs out deep by the Navy barge back then. The trick is staggering them right and then when you get a fish carefully "sliding" them by the other rigs. Obviously you don't make radical turns. They may appear as a straight line from the side or a distance but they are slightly staggered to the side of each other in the usual presentation. They could have been running the downrigger deep and close to the ball. A couple of the guys used to use duck decoys for the "jugs" painted fluorescent orange
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Sandy Creek - 8/16 & 8/18
Sk8man replied to carpedium's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy 8/18
Sk8man replied to Sanitarium's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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I think the best advice would be to talk with the Airmar tech dude...rather than taking your chances ordering one only to find that it won't do the job. They are good folks there who know their stuff with a quality product to boot.
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thanks
Sk8man replied to Home wrecker's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy Creek - 8/16 & 8/18
Sk8man replied to carpedium's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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The farm raised salmon are fed pelleted food while the wild salmon from the ocean have krill in their diet (from the baitfish they feed on) which yields the Omega 3 and 6 nutrient value for humans. Farm raised salmon do not have the same anti oxidant properties. The question I've always wondered about is: What are the differences in nutritional value of the Pacific salmon raised in the ocean vs. those raised in the Great Lakes? I've never seen any scientific studies on it.
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That's the way to do it Pap. Once the teen years hit even walleyes lose their appeal when they "discover" boys but the fishing is fun while it lasts
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Sodus Aug 18
Sk8man replied to Frogger's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Nice going Mike,/Mike and Jon...isn't it funny how the fish appear shy about cables and props until you hook them and then they can't wait to start running straight for them? Les -
For those of you more adventurous than me (I'm kind of attached to mine) you could tell within 5 ft of where your actual diver AND attractor is running by attaching a Fish Hawk TD to the wire and check the depth (and the temp at that depth) and correlate it with the readings on your line counter and speed on depth finder/GPS. I think that because of a variety of real life situational factors not taken into account in most of the chart info I've seen (e.g. directional current forces/speed, type of attractor and lures combined with a diver etc.) a lot of the info on the charts is questionable at best.
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Yes in all probability they were the floats (or "jugs") from multiple leader (usually running5 lures on each rig) Seth Green rigs. They stagger them to avoid tangles, to separate the lures in the water column and often run each at a little different levels of the water column. The fact that they caught three fish may have more to do with probabilities (more lures ='s more chances) than anything else and that they were covering more of the water column (depth-wise) than can be done with single lures. Once the thermocline is established it is usually a very productive method of fishing. Often rainbows and landlocks (and an occasional brown) are caught on the upper leaders at this time of the year and the lakers on the bottom ones.
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The doing planer board?
Sk8man replied to Rippin'Line's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Possible whirlpool in the current? -
I'm far from an expert on GPS or electronics for that matter but I know that GPS can lose the signal (or fail to receive one initially) for a variety of conditions and it may have nothing to do with your unit itself. It could be a variety of things affecting the signal from the satellite itself such as physical obstructions between it and your unit and some atmospheric conditions. I wouldn't base things on one time with physical location....try it from various places and if after it either fails to initialize repeatedly or loses the signal repeatedly try updating the software (probably should check to see if an update is available and do it anyway) and if that doesn't work contact the tech folks for your unit.
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I had a great experience yesterday aboard Tannero's 24 ft. Proline with Jeff and his good friend George. We launched out of Sandy Creek and went a bit west in about 160 ft of water to start out the beautiful morning. There were all sorts of marks on the screen and it appeared that we might have hit the jackpot about 80 to 100 ft down. We circled a couple times through them but they weren't interested in the multiple wire rigs with flashers and Spin Docs/fly combos or the spoons of various patterns and sizes fished off the downriggers with a variety of different leads. . We moved out to deeper water in search of active fish and at about a little over 300 ft Jeff connected with the first king of the day and mountain dew colored Spin Doc with a dark green and white Atomic fly set at 100 ft. Smaller king at about 10-12 lbs or so. We worked the 300-400 ft. range going east and out from in front of Braddocks and the mouth of I think the Genesee (couldn't distinguish landmarks because of haze and distance). We worked that area for hours and George connected with a king about 20 plus and worked him skillfully to the net, Jeff caught another in the 15 lb range and then I hooked onto a very large king and it was obvious right from the start he was a real good one. He not only took about 150ft. of wire on the first run but came right out of the water a good 2 or 3 ft. in the air way back as we had that rod out about 325 ft. He then jumped 4 more times about 2-3 ft. in the air while taking line while then coming toward the boat and to the side. Each time he was fully out of the water and we got some real good looks at it...definitely over 30 and one of the better fighting kings I've had on in a long time. After about 15 minutes and the 5th jump he was all of a sudden gone. When I pulled in the rig the treble was gone and the 40 lb.mono had broken...unreal it wasn't a drag setting problem either...oh well... after that fight he deserved to be free anyway but it was a bit "disheartening". I later had another chance on my wire rig with mountain dew and white glow Spin Doc with a dark greenfly....about a 15-17 pound king made it into the box. All fish came off green flies.No action whatsoever on spoons. We had another fish on briefly on wire but then off. Along the way Jeff also lost a king that bent a standard fly treble out nearly straight. For totals we went 4 for 9 all kings in the box. Most fish and hits came from about 100 ft. down. Unfortunately Jeff's specially rigged "Dolphin" lures didn't work quite as well as anticipated . A very enjoyable day indeed. Of interest is the fact that I had had never actually physically met either Jeff or George before our outing yet we fished together successfully without missing a beat....as though we had been doing it for years... another positive aspect attributable to this forum...it is a goldmine of information but also a great social mechanism for meeting like-minded people. A big thank you to Jeff.
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Olcott 8-17
Sk8man replied to Tim Bromund's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Nice steelie WTG Tim. That's the same fly (similar anyway) we had all the king action on yesterday too Les











