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Sk8man

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  1. Those speeds are a good starting point but experiment and see what seems to hit. If you look at some of the underwater video footage that has been shown here with fish chasing after the flasher/fly combo it appeared that many of the fish following had a hard time "catching" the fly even after trying several times to get it....it suggests to me that perhaps the fast action attracts the fish to chase but if it alternates with slower speeds it may give the following fish a better chance to "capture" his prey.
  2. Consider trolling worm harnesses with live night crawlers or rubber worms (motor oil, black or purple color works well) for the walleyes. Heavy "wobbling" spoons (or stickbaits like the Rapala or Yozuri (with a couple large split shot) for the pike in the 4-6 inch size run back from 75-150 ft back (top lined) at the outside edge of weed beds. As mentioned above the red and white and also the black and white daredevil spoon (larger sizes) work very well for pike.
  3. I don't know a simple answer to your question in terms of degrees. Maybe someone here has seen charts for the wire (if it exists) which could be used to make the comparison with mono...but I've never seen one. //Some things that would factor in if they were to be compared in real life conditions would be: the diameter of the wire and mono, boat speed, water currents, wind speed etc. and even water temp which could have impact on the comparison (especially since mono stretches differing amounts).
  4. I guess a few questions might be in order: 1. Where are you fishing? 2. What are you trying to catch? 3. What lb test core and what type leader and length did you use? 4. Are you taking about the use of it right now in August? General comment: leadcore is usually primarily used in the Spring and Fall especially when the fleas aren't present or active in the water column and it usually isn't the choice for deep water fishing (although possible using weights).
  5. Way to go Ed! I think I'll be fishing down that way next time....Canandaigua has become a little too empty these days.
  6. The extremely strong currents out there lately raise H with the thermocline and water column temps and combines with wind changes and the result looks like a "roller coaster" in terms of the temp profile
  7. I forgot to add: "Young fishermen should not try this technique at home without adult supervision. It should be left to professionals like Bob who have practiced it many times daily.
  8. In the spirit of the latest "How To" videos posted by some of our guys... I thought the forum might be interested in today's experience at Sodus on Lake O. and hope that you may glean useful "how not to" information from it......here is my buddy and fishing guru Adm Byrd demonstrating for you what we experienced more than once today: Pic' # 1 the WTF moment: Pic #2 The moment of elation coming from identifying the problem: The second WTF moment:
  9. They were pretty bad out from Sodus Point day as well. They seemed to like the 30 lb 7 strand much better than my Blood Run 30 lb See Flea mono though...
  10. Well, I'm convinced that the lake is dead RIP.....I went out at 615 AM and trolled until 11:30 AM - caught 2 small rainbows both on downriggers at 50 ft over 110 or so. Also had 2 hits one on Spin Doc wire rig and one on downrigger... both were gone before could leave my seat. I decided to test out an Idea I've had for awhile to get my wire rig away from the boat (back especially and to the side as well). I used a home made release that I used to use years ago for stackers to attach it to the 30 lb 7 strand with a yellow balloon at the other end of the release . in a way that wouldn't damage or kink the line. Unfortunately I didn't get anything on the rig to fully test it out but it worked very well to get the wire out of the way of my downriggers etc. Here' what it looked like: After that I figured I'd do it up big time so here is what that looked like:
  11. Ditto on Tim and Jekyll. I've also had them hit dodger/squid 4ft. from the ball but down deep. I think that when that close and down deep they see it as one unit rather than discrete objects
  12. I've done it a number of ways over the years but I think the best result is with a fine grade file. You file the point by filing from the barb toward the point on three sides of the hook. I then test it by feel.... on my thumb or finger very carefully and gently and it is right when it just catches your skin. Diamond chip sharpeners also do a good job but I prefer the first method over them. I use Mustad Stainless steel triple x or 5x Siwash salmon hooks as they sharpen the best and are sharpest usually from the factory.
  13. #8 or #10 SPRO power swivels are best (50 lb test) and very tiny. If your reel is a Penn or one without an "insert" on the level wind just widen it a little bit with something like a screwdriver or pliers carefully.
  14. Nice laker...man those Lake O lakers are looking healthy....
  15. I guess I should also mention that I seldom fish specifically for lakers on Lake O I was referring to the Finger Lakes primarily....and I only have a little over 50 years of trolling experience I guess I was trying to give an example of why people should experiment and do their "homework" for their specific situation rather than relying on just data "estimates". The already mentioned speeds noted by my friend APB are very good starting points but sometimes going up as well as down can get big results...that was my point. Lakers can be fairly quick in the water when they need to be too...just spook one in the shallows sometime .
  16. Rick - To make you feel better about pricing on the roller rods I was at a tackle shop in Cape Cod last week and the cheapest roller rod was $279....They had a rod/reel combo set up with wire for $999 My own roller rods looked a lot better to me after that
  17. Good going Jim and good report .....gives me some incentive...thinking of giving it a try in the AM but launching at the north end. Hope all the fleas aren't at this end Les
  18. I guess my advice would be to experiment with your own boat without any preconceived idea because boat speed is RELATIVE despite folks reliance on GPS and Fish Hawks etc. For example two measures of 2.5 mph on separate boats on separate lakes may actually have substantially different meaning and even on the same boat at different depths because of the way currents run despite what the measurement at the ball is for the one line. The reported mph readings from different boats may be "starting points" from which to experiment with your own boat (at best). One of my buddies refreshed this in my mind last week when were were fishing for rainbows.....he was trolling from 3.0-3.8 (surface speed) in his boat and we were connecting with them and I even had a Spin Doc out on wire and had one really slam it. I haven't trolled over 3 mph in about 20 plus years in my boats. He does it all the time and does very well including lakers. If I had been asked a couple weeks ago my response would have been much more along the lines of the reported values here. I guess what you can take away from this is this: fish are opportunists ...they often try to get something for the least amount of effort but not always. Sometimes they will be speed demons when they really want something...so if the slower speeds aren't working don't be afraid to run it up past what you are normally comfortable with. Much like the water temp scenario....the fish will often go out of their temp range (comfort zone) to get something they want....kinda like humans eh? P.S. I've caught plenty of fish (mostly lakers and browns) on cowbells with peanuts behind them at 2.6 to 2.8 mph (surface speed). With that said... most lake trout come at the slower speeds but some of the bigger ones often come at a higher speed.
  19. Might want to try spraying the section with some black Plasti Dip (comes in spray can and one that you dip things in) Maybe do a couple light coats....might hold up for a while at least. You can find itin the paint section at Lowes at about $6 per can.
  20. Way to go!!! Nothing like "quality time" spent with your kids....they grow up way too fast so savor the moments....
  21. I have the 50 lb on one of my rigs...the fleas also seem to like 50 lb It is sitting in my garage until this Fall
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