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Sk8man

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  1. Good going looks like a nice 5 lb or so male Brown from the pic maybe 24 or so inches? They seem to be tough to catch this year here on Canandaigua....and the fishing hasn't been the easiest so way to go.
  2. They used to sell pre set up stingers that had a very small treble (maybe # 10 or 12) on thin wire (like a light gauge 7 strand look to it) with a very tiny barrel swivel at the other end. You could carefully slip the barrel swivel over one of the hooks of your main hook so that the stinger dangled below it and the barb pretty much prevented it from slipping back off. or you could tie it off with very short piece of mono if the hook was too big worked pretty good in the old days....another version is made from mono and I have a few down cellar .....let me go check and I'll take a pic..... Here it is: Basically it is a short 3 inch piece of mono (about 15 lb test in this case) with a small #10 or 12 treble at on one end and a (large or extra large is the size) Kwik Klip (Fast Snap) at the other and two crimps carefully used in place of knots. attach the clip to the eye of the jig and let it dangle They can also be used for"short hitters" when trolling spoons by attaching them to the split ring at the hook end of the spoon or the hook eye itself (especially larger spoons so it doesn't impair the action).
  3. Hey Kuba....I think first of all I'd ditch the snubbers. but the tracking situation could be a number of things - first of all is the actual settings on the dipsey. Make sure the thing that turns to set it is not too loose, secondly make sure it is not set at the outer limit near the 3 because if even a tiny bit past it it will track poorly and sometimes even surface without releasing. Next check your boat speed because it is not just the angle of the rods...look at the angle of your line and slow down and check the position of the dipsey as you do. It also depends on what you are running in back of the dipsey ...if it is something with a lot of action or maybe too large for that particular dipsey it can keep it from working right. Check to see that it is going outward when you turn the boat to the opposite side. If not, jump overboard.... ...just kidding don't do it! Double check the release part of the dipsey to make sure it is engaged properly.
  4. Not bad for "life in fast forward" Andy
  5. I use each of the sizes of divers for different situations and depending on the particular body of water. The smaller ones I use with 20 lb. mono in shallow water or running say 20-45 ft in very deep water and yes they do hit bottom in 40 ft.of water with mono at 2.1 mph on zero setting as evidenced just yesterday. I don't use them for Kings on Lake O that way though. I generally use the medium divers for depths to about 70 ft. and 124mm DEEPER DIVERS for 80-125 ft. on 7 strand wire. The additional thing I do when I want additional depth from divers is use an inline cylindrical weight with an integrated swivel attached between my main line and the diver instead of just letting out more line and risking more tangles. Yes it adds a bit of torque to the rod but not all that much and it does get you deeper unless you are trolling in the ocean at 8-10 mph or perhaps going against very strong underwater currents It also depends to a degree on what you have attached to the diver (e.g. Spin Doc/fly vs. just a spoon). Another thing to do is check out your particular setup behind the boat on the surface and see how it is running (yes it does run somewhat differently sub surface with currents etc.) and try to use lures that you know run at compatible speeds so that you can then adjust your general trolling speed downward so that they all (or most) run well at that speed and yet go deeper. On the Fingers at least often times folks run too fast and cancel out the action of their lures (especially speed sensitive lures like Suttons) and experience "light bites" and poor hook-ups.
  6. Forgot to mention earlier that surface weeds and cotton were pretty bad on Keuka today but patchy with areas of water free of it
  7. If the wind is bad you also have the option of fishing in the Seneca River from either lake for bass.
  8. Well it was Sk8man and Jb235 after them big time on Keuka on Jim's Grady this morning about 6:30AM until about 1:30 PM. We trolled from Keuka College across and south on the east side to Eggelston Point then cut across to the west side to just west of the bluff then across to south of Gibsons Landing. We had 5 rods out the entire journey and it consisted of a lead core with 7 colors and 100 ft of braid out, downrigger with slider, two dipseys, and a yellowbird out about 75-100ft. We used combinations of numerous spoons and sticks. We covered from 27 ft. to over 150ft. depths. Along the way we picked up a laker on one of the the dipsies about 18- 20 inches or so (standard cookie cutter model).on the east side down about 35 ft. The most exciting part of the day however was JIm's secret trolling technique.....trolling leadcore for perch with a 4 inch long Renegade stickbait 40 ft down over 100 ft of water. Here is the exciting proof of this new tactic - and proof that we were on Keuka
  9. Good report Ed but you really know how to lay it on a guy Here I was sipping on my Geratol and taking my Viagara like the doc said and here you go....letting the whole fishing world know.....that I'm nearly as old as you
  10. Not sure where you are located but you may for starters want to pick up one of the Fishing Hotspots maps at someplace like Walmart or Gander Mountain etc. to get a feel of things at least. Most of those maps are good for just getting a feel for places you haven't been before prior to going there....just a thought....
  11. Yeah...I guess the only thing left to brag about is that we have the least competent legislature in the United States
  12. I use the same general set up as flyboy (nice drawing by the way :>) but I use a large duolock snap attached to the 3-way swivel and attach it directly to the Luhr Jensen rudder. I use a 2 pound weight most of the time with large sets of cowbells and roller guide rods with 7 strand wire but depending on depth desired, and specific equipment I'm using I vary the size of cowbells and weights to go with it. I carry an assortment of weights from 4 oz to 32 oz in the boat. I use smaller sets of cowbells on the down riggers (minus weights) and usually use peanuts rather than spin-n-glows. When using the larger cowbells I locate a fixed cheater about 3-4 ft. above the cowbells on a leader sized to place the lure behind the cowbell setup and usually with a heavier spoon on it (e.g. NK 28) so that it places it downward and behind the cowbells and peanut. Very effective for large browns and lakers in the Finger Lakes. I also use mono instead of fluoro on the cowbells to peanut leader because down deep the visibility isn't a factor and I want a little stretch when using wire line. Very sharp heavy duty trebles are a must too.
  13. Good luck and have a great season.
  14. Although you can often catch fish on the way up (or down) while jigging it is primarily a bottom oriented technique...(and especially so in salt water). Lakers are primarily bottom oriented fish and browns often hug the bottom near drop offs. If you indeed have found the thermocline try to find places where it INTERSECTS the bottom regardless of depth and your chances of catching either of those species are increased. Very often suspended lakers in VERY deep water are inactive fish (e.g. out near the barge on Seneca in 500 ft down 250ft) but suspended fish near bait may be active fish. If you mark a cluster or a lot of fish near bait suspended it may be worth drifting and jigging for them if you have calm conditions but this is independent of where the thermocline is located. The essential thing is to properly identify the thermocline (not just clustered algae formations etc.) and to locate specific areas where it intersects the bottom. The thermocline varies with currents and structures throughout the lake and just because you find it at 60-70 ft in one place you shouldn't assume that it will be the same throughout the lake. Just my take on it....hope this helps
  15. I guess the question becomes is 2 or 3 mph faster worth the possibility of over revving my engine and the potential damage associated with it. I did it (went wth faster prop) with a previous boat and couldn't figure out why my engine got so hot .....until I realized what the problem was....luckily no major damage...and I didn't have a tach on that one....
  16. You got me ED....must be old age creeping up on me
  17. Hey Ed were you referring to the leadcore pic? Thanks Bud.
  18. My son and I were on the water at Woodville at 5:05 AM. We started at white rock and were just setting the lines out when we had one on the rigger 35ft down over 60 ft (gold rebel)....smallie about 3-4 pounds let off at the back of boat. About 5 minutes later while still putting out lines and the other rigger fires (down 40 over 70 ft) and then the jumping beans got activated in this rainbow... out of the water several times and my son got him in the boat after a little chaos. He hit a "reconditioned" gold Sutton 22. Trolled to Vine Valley without another touch and marked some bait suspended and a few fish but no takers. Picked up and went back south full tilt and tried the west side. Trolled to just south of Bristol Harbor and wham... downrigger 70 over 88 ft with a "reconditioned" Quick Strike 88 and we had another jumper. After a few drag take outs and some jumping my son had the rainbow (6 pounds plus) within 10 ft. Of the boat and he went sideways into the wire rig with the Spin Doc on it and pulled the hook.He stayed on the surface for a minute or so and then seemed to smile at us (for some reason ) and took off to the depths below unscathed. My son decided to keep the first one for the grill tonight so just as well the other one would have been released anyway. All in all better than a skunk and the weather was real nice this morning....Quit at 11:15 AM. Rather tough finding active fish though. Here is the rainbow he kept Oh...and did I mention that the leadcore got into the wire rig?
  19. Seems as though you have the browns and the smallies dialed in Andy Keep at em Going in the AM to south end Canandaigua to give them a try....
  20. I hope this wind lays down a bit during the night were heading to the south end of Canandaigua early in the AM to give it a try for browns and rainbows.
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