Sk8man
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I use the same general set up as flyboy (nice drawing by the way :>) but I use a large duolock snap attached to the 3-way swivel and attach it directly to the Luhr Jensen rudder. I use a 2 pound weight most of the time with large sets of cowbells and roller guide rods with 7 strand wire but depending on depth desired, and specific equipment I'm using I vary the size of cowbells and weights to go with it. I carry an assortment of weights from 4 oz to 32 oz in the boat. I use smaller sets of cowbells on the down riggers (minus weights) and usually use peanuts rather than spin-n-glows. When using the larger cowbells I locate a fixed cheater about 3-4 ft. above the cowbells on a leader sized to place the lure behind the cowbell setup and usually with a heavier spoon on it (e.g. NK 28) so that it places it downward and behind the cowbells and peanut. Very effective for large browns and lakers in the Finger Lakes. I also use mono instead of fluoro on the cowbells to peanut leader because down deep the visibility isn't a factor and I want a little stretch when using wire line. Very sharp heavy duty trebles are a must too.
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Good luck and have a great season.
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Although you can often catch fish on the way up (or down) while jigging it is primarily a bottom oriented technique...(and especially so in salt water). Lakers are primarily bottom oriented fish and browns often hug the bottom near drop offs. If you indeed have found the thermocline try to find places where it INTERSECTS the bottom regardless of depth and your chances of catching either of those species are increased. Very often suspended lakers in VERY deep water are inactive fish (e.g. out near the barge on Seneca in 500 ft down 250ft) but suspended fish near bait may be active fish. If you mark a cluster or a lot of fish near bait suspended it may be worth drifting and jigging for them if you have calm conditions but this is independent of where the thermocline is located. The essential thing is to properly identify the thermocline (not just clustered algae formations etc.) and to locate specific areas where it intersects the bottom. The thermocline varies with currents and structures throughout the lake and just because you find it at 60-70 ft in one place you shouldn't assume that it will be the same throughout the lake. Just my take on it....hope this helps
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I guess the question becomes is 2 or 3 mph faster worth the possibility of over revving my engine and the potential damage associated with it. I did it (went wth faster prop) with a previous boat and couldn't figure out why my engine got so hot .....until I realized what the problem was....luckily no major damage...and I didn't have a tach on that one....
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Thanks Andy ,Ed, and Jim.
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You got me ED....must be old age creeping up on me
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Hey Ed were you referring to the leadcore pic? Thanks Bud.
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My son and I were on the water at Woodville at 5:05 AM. We started at white rock and were just setting the lines out when we had one on the rigger 35ft down over 60 ft (gold rebel)....smallie about 3-4 pounds let off at the back of boat. About 5 minutes later while still putting out lines and the other rigger fires (down 40 over 70 ft) and then the jumping beans got activated in this rainbow... out of the water several times and my son got him in the boat after a little chaos. He hit a "reconditioned" gold Sutton 22. Trolled to Vine Valley without another touch and marked some bait suspended and a few fish but no takers. Picked up and went back south full tilt and tried the west side. Trolled to just south of Bristol Harbor and wham... downrigger 70 over 88 ft with a "reconditioned" Quick Strike 88 and we had another jumper. After a few drag take outs and some jumping my son had the rainbow (6 pounds plus) within 10 ft. Of the boat and he went sideways into the wire rig with the Spin Doc on it and pulled the hook.He stayed on the surface for a minute or so and then seemed to smile at us (for some reason ) and took off to the depths below unscathed. My son decided to keep the first one for the grill tonight so just as well the other one would have been released anyway. All in all better than a skunk and the weather was real nice this morning....Quit at 11:15 AM. Rather tough finding active fish though. Here is the rainbow he kept Oh...and did I mention that the leadcore got into the wire rig?
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Seems as though you have the browns and the smallies dialed in Andy Keep at em Going in the AM to south end Canandaigua to give them a try....
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I hope this wind lays down a bit during the night were heading to the south end of Canandaigua early in the AM to give it a try for browns and rainbows.
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Cool! Happy Fathers Day Kev !
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Good going sure save the old $$$$ being handy and doing the stuff yourself. I don't think you'll regret having that back up motor for a second....mine saved my butt recently.....good luck with the rest of the project....you're going to have a real nice rig when you finish.... -
Hey Tim one of the things I've done since having my little whaler (which didn't have a bilge pump) is I rigged up a portable bilge pump with clip battery connectors for the battery and a section of garden hose with a hose clamp attached to it to allow water to be pumped over the side or transom. I've never needed it thus far as I have one on this boat already but it is an added security "blanket" and something I can throw to somebody who may need it as well. -
You're very welcome Jeff. Hope it works out for you. -
It looks like the bracket s made out of white metal or cast metal of some type...once that stuff is broken the strength of the material immediately surrounding the break is also suspect. I'm thinking that what might work is to cut the remaining material off flush with the main part of the bracket and have a piece replicating the broken part machined out of 1/2 inch or 5/8 aluminum stock or 1/4 or 3/8 inch stainless and have a "base" integrated into the part itself (L shaped bend or welded part) that you can bolt (with stainless bolts) to the remaining plate (forming an "L" shaped brace?). It's hard to tell from the pic how much material is on the base of the unit but the cross piece looks pretty sturdy for bolting to. I know it might sound a bit lame but I wouldn't depend on something I might or might not see on the back of the boat...I'd put a small note right on the center of my steering wheel (covered in plastic) so that I'd be sure to see it (as a constant reminder as well). I 'd make a template of the existing unbroken part on the other side by tracing on paper
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Well you did the right thing regardless....you sure don't want to give her the feeling that she can't get herself straightened out when she goes out in the boat. Those wave characteristics on Lake O. (slow long rollers) can do it to you....I've never been actually sick out there but definitely a little queazy a couple times. A buddy of mine has it happen there but never on the other lakes we've fished together despite it being very rough. AND... ya don't want the wife to take the plug out and poke holes in the bottom of your new Islander before you go out next time by yourself
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Nice going and report. I saw your post last night but haven't been to Seneca since the trout derby so didn't have any current info but it looks as though you got them dialed in OK sometimes "experimentation" is more fun anyway
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Hope you're having good luck Jason...let us know whats happening out there....
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Okuma Cold Water Reel Recall as of 5/31/2013
Sk8man replied to Captain's Cove's topic in Tackle and Techniques
I think they need to get their quality control under CONTROL....Some of this stuff shouldn't be happening in the first place if they were testing properly ahead of releasing the items. My convector was messed up right out of the box. -
Andy, The info above sounds right on target. Take each thing singly and modify it as described and I think you'll solve the problem. If it doesn't then you'll at least know for sure that they are 'light bites" probably coming from fish that aren't really all that hungry because they've been chowing down already.
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My take on it is this: Most folks on many different bodies of water (e.g. Finger lakes) seem to be reporting the same result. The lakes are "transitioning" toward the thermocline setting up and there seems to be high availability of bait still in relatively shallow water in big congregations making it easy for fish to feed without much effort, and there is considerable early morning light right now enhancing this possibility. The recent deluges of rain haven't helped the situation either (except maybe in terms of being able to launch without as much concern) My hunch is that in a week or two (at the latest) things will stabilize (if the weather cooperates) and the huge bait pods will disperse into smaller pods and the fishing will improve greatly (toward late June early July (if like in many other "normal" years). Folks who anticipated a return of last years fishing fiesta may not have been looking closely enough at the differences in the weather conditions leading into the present situation. Last years warmth, dryness and general weather was very abnormal. Lake O may be a bit different because of its size.
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Henderson Shipping Lanes
Sk8man replied to FHflo13's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
A word of caution: When fishing near the shipping lanes you need to be very vigilant because these large ships and barges have the right of way and can come up on you faster and much more quietly than you might think. Many years ago I was out in that area with my little13 ft. Whaler. I was fishing for steelies and my 2 stroke 9.9 was pretty noisey....I happened to look in back of me and there was a huge double barge bearing down on me and they didn't appear to see me at all. I cranked up the 35 and took off full tilt with my downriggers still in the water I thought about carrying a second set of underwear after that .....I know.....I had no business out there in that little boat...