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Everything posted by schreckstoff

  1. Fairly confident the one it is a Spottail Shiner, definitely not a Cisco. The mouth (subterminal) isn’t right for an Emerald’s mouth (superior). Spottails are cool little preyfish I’ve always wanted to know more about them. I know they are more benthic than some other shiners. Likely not a coincidence their relative abundance in Lake Ontario declined quickly as Round Goby increased.
  2. Great recovery, congrats. I don’t understand why wasn’t there a better blood trail based on that shot? Do you have any theories? NittanyF - nice job and thanks for sharing, cool story.
  3. Congratulations to both of you, nice shot and love the thoroughness on the prep.
  4. “Bait futures”, I like that term! good luck in the woods everyone , Gotta love sitting in a tree reading LOU
  5. Top one looks like It might be a Spottail shiner, bottom ones look like a panfish maybe
  6. Roger that in the torpedoes, I was thinking 12lbers. My riggers are old: converted Digi troll 2’s and Canon Marlins. I assume I will be ok with the 12s or should I go 14lb? some interesting bait discussion happening over on Michigan Forum : https://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/threads/the-bait-debate.700459/
  7. good on you for the vest too, did you ever find a remote kill switch you liked / was reasonable?
  8. I thought the current piece was crazy. Those times when I can't get my down temp right cause it 'seems' like the current is switching, is likely due to me moving into different parts of a wavy stream. (and partly because I haven't called Troutman yet to order some real rigger weights, stupid pancakes!) RE: Whiting vs Bloom, I was wondering about this too, and of course they often occur together so probably some of both. It it seems like a whiting, the timing is about right, conditions certainly have been right. Its interesting that it is primarily a Canadian whiting with some parts reaching the south shore now and then. Then again I don't think I've looked at enough of these images from this time of year to know how usual/unusual a N vs S shore difference is. I heard reports from the North shore that shallower staging fish are being caught frequently and it seems less so in the south. I'm still wondering how water clarity might influence staging behavior. The changes (declines) to the staging fishery on the south shore seem to be one of those comments that is consistent which always makes me think the physical lake environment is / has changed...but I'm way out over my toes on those ideas. I also noticed in most of the MODIS pics somehow the whiting/blooms to turn south right around Sandy Creek area....hmm...makes me wonder if Aquaman-Gambler can control the lake currents in addition to the lake trout. I don't check in on the MODIS enough but GillT keeps me honest. I know if there is something I need to see he'll tell me. I was looking at the other lakes MODIS images and I sure am glad to work in "the lower settling basin" as my upper lakes colleagues say. Michigan water looks black most of the time.
  9. https://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/modis.php?region=o&page=1 some awesome currents evident
  10. That pic could go on the cover of the annual DEC fishing booklet except for those excessively revealing shorts! Ha I crack me up.
  11. First time fishing the late afternoon evening shift - I kind of liked it. Swega was flat & hot. About 6 or so boats out around 5 and most were fishing 120' to 300'+. We looked for cold water and had to drop the probe to 110' or 120' to find 49deg. We did not mark much, but that may be due to me not having the Helix settings right. Fished riggers and wire divers, fished deep (400') till 7 without a hit, then it got better. Found fish in a fairly small spot, around 300-320' out in front. Wire, MagDipsy 3setting, 220-240' out, I'm assuming that was running around 100'. Only thing that worked was 8" DeathWish SpinDr & Bloodydeath Atomic fly, it took a 22 and 16lber and a yearling. Was running all sorts of glow, green, and black - on spoons, FF, Fmeat...nothing on those. Tried running a high and low diver for the first time....yeah, I have a quite a bit more to learn. Tangled Tackle youtube videos make it look easy...but I managed to screw it up...multiple times. Ended up fighting both big fish on 2 rods. It was good laughs with 2 of us standing next to each other fighting the same fish....noobs! As i turns out, all those posts that talk about using good swivels and checking them aren't kidding. Ran my Chinook Divers, I like the way they work vs the mag Dipsy.
  12. Ran wire mag dipsy’s out 110 to 320ft, settings 2 & 3. FLasher fly and Flasher/Rocket... was not our day. We were about to break out the “save the day Gambler rigs” when we started having engine issues, limped in but made it. Turned out a motor mount was loose, and a plug wire and bolts holding alternator had backed out....boat gremlins suck!
  13. Absolutely, all true. Like most non native species, in the beginning there can often be much doom and gloom, and predicting. Then when everything settles down and we get enough observations to look at the whole picture, the initial predictions might not necessarily be spot on. Byth spines in particular were found to “ball up” by the hundreds, and get stuck in Alewife stomachs so there was concern that Alewife could not keep eating them, and would starve...but no one told the Alewife and they kept eating them when they were abundant and Alew were getting bigger and bigger. They potentially extend the Alewife growing season...maybe by a month or more. We frequently find Byth spines in Alewife stomachs in April, presumably left over from fall/winter. They do have a lower energy density than Daphnia as GillT notes but they are also 50+ times heavier than the small Daphnia they eat, so even if their quality as food is not quite as good , Alewife do not work nearly as hard to eat more total food....a net gain.
  14. A picture showing what Sk8man was explaining. Cercopagis or fishhook flea on top, Bythotrephes or spinywater flea on bottom & bigger. Both of them seem to make alewife grow very fast. Cercopagis is usually peaking first in the season, like now, and Byth numbers climb and peak in fall, after they munch down the Cerco. We have this idea that Byth seems to allow Alewife to stay up in the water column feeding, later in the fall than they used to before we had them. Fascinating and frustrating! I just finished setting up 2 new Blood Run diver rods to saw through the snot. That BR wire is really nice to handle.
  15. The wind/wave buoy mid lake off Roch is a good source of current conditions in case no one gets back to you. The combination And trajectories of nominal wave height: https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php?station=45012&meas=wvht&uom=E&time_diff=-4&time_label=EDT wind speed: https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php?station=45012&meas=wspd&uom=E&time_diff=-4&time_label=EDT and wind direction helps me plan: https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php?station=45012&meas=wdir&uom=E&time_diff=-4&time_label=EDT
  16. That warm water division is kind of a neat idea GT!
  17. LOU community, If anyone is interested in helping to collect stomachs from Lake Ontario trout and salmon you clean please see this website for instructions (http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/120435.html) or PM me on here. Collecting the stomachs is fairly easy, there is a small amount of information we are looking to have written down, and everything can be tossed in a plastic bag and frozen. The website explains it all. Six drop off freezers, that have sample bags too, are located from Fort Niagara to Oswego. If you can get samples but not get them to a freezer PM me and we might be able to accommodate. A big thank you to the anglers and charter captains who have been saving and sending stomach samples already, but we always need more! The prey fish composition from these samples will be compared to historic samples (thank you all for that help) and you'll see results of all those data in upcoming reports. Some of my colleagues information is out there if you have any questions and always feel free to PM me on here. Thanks again, Brian Weidel
  18. RE: arrows, I have become a student of the Ranch Fairy (YouTube if u haven’t seen him), heavy stiff arrows, high FOC, no “Twizzlers” no Flappers anymore for me.
  19. Fished 6 till noon, 70-230 FOW, bait was most consistent 70-90 FOW, some out to 150FOW but couldn’t get anything to go. Tried lots of stuff, even Gambler rigs bouncing on bottom couldn’t get us a LT. Saw very few if any bigger fish marks on graph. 60-62 deg on surface, 50-55deg water was 80-100 ft down. Weather and company were great.
  20. Finished with GreatLaker today and his dad, had a great day of fun, a little light on fish. Landed a nice brown and laker and found a little laker on when we pulled lines. Fished S of Taughannock, marked fish and bait all over, shallow and deep. No real pattern, goby stick off board took Brown, rigger spoon took laker. Good stories and laughs. Lots of memories being back in Cayuga south end, learned how to troll there ~20yrs ago by reading this site.
  21. Stevent that is really interesting, thanks for sharing.
  22. My wife and I love sushi and make it almost weekly, but we don’t use raw freshwater fish because of the parasite risk . We’ve done lightly cooked salmon but I would rather the texture of raw so we stick with marine caught salmon. You have me thinking though, now that I (finally) learned how bleeding helps the flesh quality I will probably try to freeze some and make some rolls or something. I usually use myself as a test case before feeding my experiments to others.
  23. I started doing it this year and also wish I had always done it. Quality is better and the fillet process is WAY better.
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