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I am getting a new to me boat 18 ft walk thru windshield 115 and 8 hp kicker I want to get a bow mt trolling motor for bass fishing . But I also know some of you guys use them for Auto pilot for trolling . I know nothing about this or what to get . Maybe one of my LOU brothers can enlighten me and send me in the right direction .

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It's a great unit . Seems very well made . But it's a crappy design on the probe . Those probes on the front should be better protected . It would be an easy thing to do design wise . But my guess is that the average unit sold buys at least 1 probe because of failure or loss . Nice cash cow .

I catch a lot of pike in the middle of the creek on a hard bottom . Using Senko style baits fished slowly on bottom . So yeah I think they eat a lot of gobies Got this guy today

You have fish under you Keep things simple I would run one rigger just off bottom and one 20 ft above to target the Lakers . 15 to 25 ft leads . No dipsey yet till you master the riggers . Don't be afraid to do circles over the marks . If you are spread out vertical and same leads you should not tangle with just riggers out . I don't fish the finger lakes just LO but fish are fish .

I'm sure you guys are doing a great job over there . Not trying to be political at all . It doesn't sit well with me me how this all went down . For years a lot of guys at Sandy put much hard work in. My time has only been in recent years . And I've seen my share of politics in that time . And politics is partly why we are where we're at on this . I still think a new hatchery should be priority #1 .

Once upon a time when this all started and they were dumping fish in the lake like trash in a landfill , all fish were direct stocked . And yes , I know things have changed , clear water and y cormerants . my neighbor Charlie Chick told me he dumped the first bucket of Kings ever in Sandy . We had crazy runs of Kings in any water flow on the South shore and did for years . And then it slowed dramatically . Which happened the same time they stopped rearing kings at Calidonia . All kings were raised at Altmar and the overwhelming majority imprinted there . In an effort to get south shore king runs back , pen rearing started . Now its debatable if it works or not . But to some degree IMO , it does . Put 100 k of Kings in a pen , maybe 10 percent imprint . That's a good number . The last few years because of stocking cuts , returns of Kings in most tribs were down . I did not see that at Sandy untill this past year . And surprisingly 3 years ago this spring is when we lost our fish . Coinsedence ? Maybe , maybe not . My assessment of this is that stakeholders and businesses strong armed the DEC to get more fish stocked as we all always do . They could not increase numbers because of the bait so they did this . I witnessed the strong arm tactic when the DEC wanted to increase the size limit of steelhead in the lake from 21" to 25" . Things got a bit heated over this . I won't go into details . A guy on here , can't remember who (sarcasm) has suggested a new state of the art hatchery . This should be a #1 priority of members of this site and all upstate fishing organizations . For Browns ,Domestics . Not only for LO but for all the streams in this part of the state . And some Kings , just to see what happens .Maybe walleye . We at Sandy, with a very well organized and enthusiastic volunteer base , got boned . I want our fish back . And the way I see it , the horse ain't dead .

I'm sure the Genny and Oak guys are doing a great job ........ Taking care of our fish . Who said the horse is dead ? We got thrown under the bus . If there is no imprinting , why not just keep them at the hatchery and power feed the heck out of them and direct release them out of a helicopter into the lake ?

I want our fish back

Actually I was told by guys that did a lot of the caretaking of those pen fish early on , that the Sandy fish were the heartiest of all the pen fish of all locations on the lake . This was done to appease the interests of the stakeholders and businesses in tributaries that have high amounts of destination anglers so when they come up to those areas , they have fish to catch . And they come back . I was told that when they made the decision by someone I believe , is a reliable source .

Did you apply white primer before the flouresent ?

As a Sandy creek angler , I want our fair share of pen fish back.

I love my slide divers I really don't run them enough . Usually only as a last resort when I think about it . Best when fish are 70 ft and higher . I use spoons mostly but flashers also. I use 65# braid on mine to 40 or 50 ft of 30 # mono which the diver slides on . Then bead and swivel .Then 5 ft of flouro .

My best ones You can see the tail broken on the shadling . Been hanging on my shop wall for 25 years