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Thought our tribs saw alot of pressure.......
HB2 replied to bout time's topic in Open Lake Discussion
I listen to the meeting last night that was posted on here . Very informative and sounds like the DEC has a good handle on things . It confirmed a lot of my suspicions . When they raised the steelhead limit from 18 " to 21" and the 21 % catch rate increase was interesting. Sounds like the tribs guys want to up the limit to 25" to further help .Sounds like the lake guys are against that, as I am . One guy confirmed the copper / lead core thing. And the fact that stream guys are 85 % c & r . Also the " education" initiative to curb the unethical behavior. I guess what bothers me the most about the ongoing discussion on her at nauseam , is the disdain some have on here for the tribs fishery . Fact is , you can't have one without the other . Like it or not , we are all on the same team . We need as many guys doing this as possible to insure funding and improvements. All the woes of the lake are not the tribs guy doing . Some are . But lake guys need to take some responsibility also . I have done both ,a lot , and can count on one hand the trib trout I released that I thought would not make it . I wish I could say the same about the released summer lake fish . And from the sounds of the baitfish assessment , the average size of the fish is here to stay . -
Thought our tribs saw alot of pressure.......
HB2 replied to bout time's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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Thought our tribs saw alot of pressure.......
HB2 replied to bout time's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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Back in I think 1977 when I bought my first boat I bought a Lowrance Brown box paper graph cause I just had to have it . Was clueless , as most were , how to troll for salmon . After a long while I figured out that I was more watching the graph than fishing . Worry more about location & presentation . And use the fish hawk for reference IMO.
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Thought our tribs saw alot of pressure.......
HB2 replied to bout time's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Unfortunately , all those crowds are good for the fishery . Every out of state licence or dollar spent at a tackle shop, restaurant ,motel,etc means sales and state income and licence taxes and fees . And that's why our governor continues to fund the program . Also why DEC writes tickets and local judges have a hard time convicting . They don't want to chase away paying customers . -
Craziest non target species catch on lake O
HB2 replied to Rtrucking40's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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What is your trick to easily fill the spool with ,say , backer, then , lead core ,wire , or flea line? So you get the maximum line on . I have mine and it works great .
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When Los Angeles , Chicago , and New York city are running the country , God help us . The majority of the population lives there. And can we say they are " smarter" with what goes on in these places ? I am more concerned about this GREEN NEW DEAL that is coming . They want us to use no fossil fuels . If and when this gets implemented at least in some part , the price of gas / diesel will skyrocket . What will that do to our fishery and economy as a whole when gas is $5 to $8 ?
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And we are run by downstate . And there now is a democratic majority in the state legislature . A few backroom deals are made and it passes . We are the back 40 of the state . God help us if the Electoral College is not used anymore . The country will be run by the population centers . States like Wyoming and South Dakota will have no voice . Have I ever mentioned we would make a great 51st state ?
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There is freedom of speech , unless you are a kid on a bus talking about fishing . And God forbid someone gets offended. Then you can't talk about that anymore . And there are a bunch more examples . Like praying or saying Christmas in school. There is no true freedom of speech anymore. Get ready for 1984 Facecrime.
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Banrus is right on this one It's a new day. People are looking for a reason to be offended . Our kids are programmed in school. And Cuomo cozys up to the environmentalists like he did with the lake level thing . We have to watch out . This could be another way to chip away at the second amendment . Did anyone see the environmentalists want to give Lake Erie human rights ?
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I would want at least surface temp and speed . You can get an add on for most depth finders for like $75 . I used this for a lot of years and did quite well with this . I looked at cables , turned a lot , dragged 1 ,2 or no buckets which were in and out of the water all day . Noted direction of troll and surface speed on the strike . So there are ways without .
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Just saw a boating show on tv when I was in North Carolina about this on an Alpha 1 outdrive . The tech said change every 5 years . An oz of prevention is worth a pound of cure .
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I fish my dipsey mostly with with flasher fly. There are days they get most of the hits. And days they get none . It's a king killer I use 65 # braid , a,black dipsey , a dream weaver snubber ( not the lure Jensen ,they are to stretchy ) 8 ft of 40# mono ,then lure . I also have a slide diver I like for spoons . Braid , 30 ft of 30# mono , bead for stop , med swivel, 6 ft of 15 # mono. I start on a 1.5 setting and rarely go past 2.5 ,which works on calmer sunny days Mid to late summer I rarely have less than 140 ft of line out and as much as 300 . I start at like 120 and let it click out very slowly while trolling it in the rod holder . Does you reel have a line counter ? Almost essential for this .
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I have been trolling the lake since 1977. I've pretty much always had surface speed . This is good for fishing less than 50 ft. Combined with GPS SOG. For deep water I would watch cable angle ,and got good at it after a lot of years experience. My son kept bugging me to get a Fish Hawk and I finally did . I really don't fish any different than I did before but I find myself depending on it more and more. I've had it 2 seasons. I have the X4 . If you are fairly new at this I feel it is a good investment . Maybe spend less on depth finder or lures or whatever. Fact is , if your lures are not running right , it doesn't matter what you are using . First piece of the fishing equation is Location .Get over fish Second is presentation .
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I personally think that most are a bunch of .... bags . I've had it with the whole lot of them . For as big of an ass as trump is he seem to be the only one who cares about us . Heath care was a money / power grab and so is this . I wasn't born yesterday . And if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it our beloved Governor who said there was no room in this state for conservatives ? Want some more ?
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A couple days before this wind , Cuomo goes public about lowering the lake level , a little late . When he should have been out there in October . It's lip service . Where is all the electric going to come from for this GREEN NEW DEAL ? From the jelly bean field's ? It's all making sense now . No fossil fuel in 12 years ? What do we do with our cars ,boats,lawn mowers ,furnaces etc. ?
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Imagine that , black green and silver lazer . All the right colors I put glow on almost all my spoons I buy the 2 pack of 2x 5 sheets . Lay the sheet on my work bench , and with a sharp razor free hand a 1/4 " piece like the curve of the edge of the cup of the spoon and stick it onthe back . Then just keep working the sheet across . I don't know if it makes a difference to the fish , but I don't think it hurts . A flash of glow to convince a undecided follower into taking a bite